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27th March 2011, 19:48 #1
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Track Limits
Something the BBC raised on the post race forum was the fact that drivers are still not being punished for going off track on the outside.
At turn 4 Buemi and Vettel both went way over the lines with all four wheels while overtaking, but escaped punishment. They were probably marginally ahead anyway, but it does seem to be a bit of a blind spot for the stewards - they didn't even investigate the incidents.
They were (rightly) quick to penalise Button for cutting the corner and passing Massa, but I hope that they're going to be equally strict if drivers use too much "run off" while passing? They even clarified the rules before the start of the year to state that at least one wheel must be "on track" at all times!
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27th March 2011, 20:08 #2
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Originally Posted by christophulusOpinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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27th March 2011, 20:51 #3
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The way I see it is this. If you shorten the track, you get punished, no argument. But running wide and lengthening the track is its own punishment IMO. Turn 4 is a good example. Not only has the driver got a longer distance to travel, they also have a tighter angle of attack for the quick turn 5. If they manage to stick a pass whilst doing that, kudos to them.
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27th March 2011, 21:00 #4
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Originally Posted by SonicOpinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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27th March 2011, 22:13 #5
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28th March 2011, 08:53 #6
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Originally Posted by christophulus
Neither Buemi or Vettel were forced to take the line they did, they took the option of maintaining their speed because they had the option of running wide and making a pass. Without that area of run off being available they could not have made the pass, and that area is not between the lines that designate the track according to the rule.Riccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
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28th March 2011, 09:06 #7
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I guess the area of runoff is slightly different to Button going down the escape road which was physically seperated from the track itself?
Drivers going outside of the boundard of the track is nothing new, they used to do it as a matter of course at La Source.Please 'like' our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/motorsportforums
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28th March 2011, 09:12 #8Originally Posted by MarkYou're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.
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28th March 2011, 09:24 #9
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That's always the problem with having to put things down in exact rules. We pretty much agree that the Buemi move was ok but the Button move was not, but how to you write that into a regualtion?!
Again it's not a new issue, remember Senna was disqualified from a race win for cutting a chicane after a coming together with Prost. But for a long time the rule has been that you can run wide as long as you don't take an advantage from it, that could be in terms of time, or gaining or failing to lose a position.Please 'like' our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/motorsportforums
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28th March 2011, 10:09 #10
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Originally Posted by MarkRiccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
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