hypocrisy

[Roamy]

Well who really gives a sh!t??? We have some dumb ones we have some smart ones. We have Apple, Intel, Microsoft the F22 and you guys have a huge Muslim influx. So when you get around to stoning your women send the pretty ones over here!

[janvanvurpa]

Because the good ol' US of A has some of the best universities in the world? Just a wild guess!

If you have a problem with the public education system, then go to private school. I was fortunate enough to have two parents that worked their asses off as laborers so their son could have a better future. Honestly, I ain't doin' too bad for the offspring of illegal immigrants.

I think America is very unique in the sense that hard work and dedication will pay dividends for your future. So far, that line of thinking has worked well for me.

I have seen no discernible difference between children "educated" in Public or private High Schools.. briefly put "a whole lot of nuthin" is not much difference from "don't know jack sh!t"..

The main difference is that the cocky twerps who were or went to expensive ($22,000/yr in the mid 1990s for one here in Seattle who worked for me doing her Senior Year project for 4 months) is they announced with a certainty that "I'm getting a good education".

And you are wrong is imagining (you don't "think" America is unique, you imagine or believe America is unique, had you gotten a decent education you would have been taught that there are huge differences between those words)
that USA is unique "in the sense that hard work and dedication will pay dividends for your future. "

There is MORE social mobility ---moving in social classes--- in Europe than USA, and if you want to see return on investment in education and hard work, I suggest you visit China sometimes...It is totally amazing what a good college education and hard work accomplishes there.

[janvanvurpa]

Well who really gives a sh!t??? We have some dumb ones we have some smart ones. We have Apple, Intel, Microsoft the F22 and you guys have a huge Muslim influx. So when you get around to stoning your women send the pretty ones over here!

Ah Fousto, or whatever dumb name he's hiding behind lately, whose brilliant reasoning and insight is here the clinching the discussion that the American educational system, indeed the whole society produces..........

intellectually negative, plagiarizing, violent xenophobic, ciphers.

hey Fousto, don't say "we' to all that stuff, you had nothing to do with any of it.

And with we've heard of your physical 'amplitude" it won't do you any good if the Europeans send 20,000 babes to USA, they're not impressed with well guys like you...to put it as politely and understated as possible.

In more plain words, fat rednecks aren't the "in" thing in the civilised parts of the world.

[glauistean]

It was your opinion, and you are merely trolling for a response so you can attack those who disagree with you.

Most people who write on a forum express an opinion. Trolling? What is trolling? To me it is putting a bait in the water to catch a fish. If that's the case I have caught one very insecure one. Bob Riebe, if you are unabale to refute what I have said , and you, yes you, are the one that is trying to illicit a reponse.

[janvanvurpa]

First of all, that was not a rant. Secondly, there are fewer Europeans of the current generation moving to the US. They are instead moving throughout the EU.
However, instead of answering the body of the post you immediately react as all right wing fanatics. You deflect. You try to alter the very context of what was written instead of addressing it's merit.
By doing this Prop, you fall into the very argument that is proposed.

Glauistean, according to all those on the Authoritarian Extremest side of the field, anything they either cannot begin to understand---or feel they may disagree with, or have been told by their betters on the Talk Radio is bad, they characterise as a "rant"..
You should do as I do who believes that each person treats others as they wish to be treated themselves and invariably refer to any response from the V.I.s here as a rant in return..

To them, there is one mode of dialog and that is Ranting. no talking, no laying foundations to a premise, only agreement or ranting...

Keep up the good work, ignore Vop, he's in a fantasy world, ignore the currently named Roamy aka Fousto the Plagiartist (he cuts and pastes email chain letters and junk from Freerepublic and Storm Front and posts it up as if he was clever enough to have thought, much less written more than 3 lines of hate at a given time.)

[glauistean]

I don't know who you talked to but I don't think that most people over here could even explain our own election system, never mind a foreign country.

I think statistics are used unfairly against Americans in comparision to Europe. Such as only 22% of Americans having a passport. You can't compare this to Europeans because a foreign country is often less than an hours flight away. If we only needed a passport to travel outside of Europe most of us wouldn't have one.

However there does seem to be a lot of confusion in America about the difference between England, Wales, Scotland and the United Kingdom. I read some American reviews of the England versus USA match at the FIFA World Cup. I noticed how they used the Union Flag to represent England instead of the St.Georges Cross and referred to the English footballers as Brits. The sad truth of this ignorance is the Scottish people don't call themselves British because Americans always assume British people are English (who talk like Hugh Grant, have tea and crumpets in the afternoon and have bad teeth).

Ireland (Rep) was the country where I had the most in depth conversation.

People in Ireland are very well versed in most topics and politics is one of their favorite topics. That it does not include GB and you assumed I spoke of the GB shows a little bit of arrogance on your part sinve the UK or GB was not mentioned.

Ireland ranks in the top five in education at secondary level (high school). Ten places higher than the UK and another 7 places higher than the US.
English football palyers are Brits. So too are the Scots, the Welsh and those from Northern Ireland.

England is not a country and is allowed t participate as an independent body as the others mentioned as a result of a request to do so.

Your comment that most people travelling outside of their own country with specific emphasis on GB is obvious because of geography.

The endemic problem in the US is its colloquial approach to everything, be iteducation, politics or knowledge of history or geography. Should I say Sarah Palin? Again?

[Bob Riebe]

Most people who write on a forum express an opinion. Trolling? What is trolling? To me it is putting a bait in the water to catch a fish. If that's the case I have caught one very insecure one. Bob Riebe, if you are unabale to refute what I have said , and you, yes you, are the one that is trying to illicit a reponse.

You have said nothing to refute, all you give is your opinion and as it is baseless, it is vacuous.

Nice try at avoiding having to make a an actual point by attacking other posters rather than proving your rhetoric, although as it is vacuous, that would be impossible anyway.

You seem to be a little child, who is a legend in his own mind---
Definition of COLLOQUIAL
1
: of or relating to conversation : conversational
2
a : used in or characteristic of familiar and informal conversation
b : using conversational style

--as ignorant as it seems to be.
Troll, troll, troll your boat....

[Rudy Tamasz]

Ireland (Rep) was the country where I had the most in depth conversation.

People in Ireland are very well versed in most topics and politics is one of their favorite topics. That it does not include GB and you assumed I spoke of the GB shows a little bit of arrogance on your part sinve the UK or GB was not mentioned.

Ireland ranks in the top five in education at secondary level (high school). Ten places higher than the UK and another 7 places higher than the US.
English football palyers are Brits. So too are the Scots, the Welsh and those from Northern Ireland.

England is not a country and is allowed t participate as an independent body as the others mentioned as a result of a request to do so.

Your comment that most people travelling outside of their own country with specific emphasis on GB is obvious because of geography.

The endemic problem in the US is its colloquial approach to everything, be iteducation, politics or knowledge of history or geography. Should I say Sarah Palin? Again?

Why is Oireland so miserable then?

[Rollo]

English football players are Brits. So too are the Scots, the Welsh and those from Northern Ireland.

England is not a country and is allowed to participate as an independent body as the others mentioned as a result of a request to do so.

England is not a country? Bollocks.

England is one of four constituent countries of the UK, and whilst it doesn't have a devolved parliament of it's own, the laws passed in Wales do not apply in England, the laws passed in Scotland do not apply in England and the laws passed in Northern Ireland also do not apply in England.

However, although laws passed in the Parliament in Westminster do apply throughout the UK (subject to special applications law in Northern Ireland), it is English Law which applies in Wales and England, Scots Law which applies in Scotland, and Northern Ireland law which applies in said country.

England did not simply disappear with the Acts of Union, nor did it "dissolve" into the UK. England is in political union Scotland which formed a new country called the United Kingdom, but nevertheless it is still a country in its own right.

English football players are ENGLISH. There is no British Football Team (though in the past there has been for a few select matches). England participates along with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, because they all have separate Football Associations and because they are four separate countries.

Furthermore the International Football Association Board is made up of the four countries in the UK, plus four other FIFA members, not because of some "request". The four home nations have a very big say in the laws of the game.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifa..._ifab_9481.pdf

The English are English, the Scots are Scottish, the Welsh are Welsh, and the people of Northern Ireland are from Northern Ireland. Britain is both a political construct, a sovereign territory and a flag of convenience or inconvenience as required.

[Mark]

and the people of Northern Ireland are from Northern Ireland.

Nicely swerved there