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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John
    Without a new homologation process!!! So what do you think, Citroen and the FIA ​​are neighbors, then it appears that everything is possible between these friends.
    We have seen it enough times that there is a rule book for Citreon and one for everyone else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyc85
    We have seen it enough times that there is a rule book for Citreon and one for everyone else!
    of course, the proof is that Citroen is the last of the TOP team to date to be penalized based on homologation (missing a picture)..... oh wait, that's the opposite of a proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford
    Well, the talk that Loeb-s engine failiure in France was just a human error sound more and more like I tought. Some sort of miscalculation with their engine durability.
    I remember watching the live coverage of the power stage when Phil Mills was a guest co-host. He said that although the media did a great job keeping it quiet, that Loeb's engine failure was his own fault. He said that Loeb cut a corner and hit one of those steel rods the organizers stuck in the ground to keep cars from cutting, and broke his oil cooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blownb310
    I remember watching the live coverage of the power stage when Phil Mills was a guest co-host. He said that although the media did a great job keeping it quiet, that Loeb's engine failure was his own fault. He said that Loeb cut a corner and hit one of those steel rods the organizers stuck in the ground to keep cars from cutting, and broke his oil cooler.
    And he kept revving the engine when oil pressure was dropping. Not to take anything away from his acheivements but he didnt demonstrate any mechanical sympathy in stopping the engine as soon as the fault was apparent. My guess is that engine when stripped had a lot of damage.

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    Was it allowed to be stripped? Didnt they stop so the engine could be run in Spain?
    What where they allowed to repair?
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Was it allowed to be stripped? Didnt they stop so the engine could be run in Spain?
    What where they allowed to repair?
    Well if that engine ran in Spain after being revved like that with no oil pressure I think Citroen have devised some space age magic technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJW
    And he kept revving the engine when oil pressure was dropping. Not to take anything away from his acheivements but he didnt demonstrate any mechanical sympathy in stopping the engine as soon as the fault was apparent. My guess is that engine when stripped had a lot of damage.
    So he has the possibility to overide the engine management system? Normally engines goes into safe mode, when oil pressure get low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Was it allowed to be stripped? Didnt they stop so the engine could be run in Spain?
    What where they allowed to repair?
    When the engine expires and you retire from the rally, then you can take new engine for next rally. If you finish the rally and discover that you have to change the engine before the next event, then you get 5 minutes penalty.

    A few things about engines rules:
    LIMITATION OF THE NUMBER OF ENGINES
    64.1.1 After the 01/05/2011 each Manufacturer or a WRC Team must use no more than 2 engines per
    car for the rest of the season (ie: 2 engines per car for 9 Rallies).
    64.1.2 Each engine will be assigned to a seasonally allocated car number.
    64.2.2 If a Manufacturer or WRC team has used the engines given in Art 64.1.1 and 64.1.3 and if the
    car finishes a rally (thus appearing in the final classification) and the seals are found to be destroyed
    without the written approval of the FIA Technical Delegate, a 5-minute penalty may be imposed by the
    stewards at the next rally.
    Colins Crest = Möldri Mätas

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavier
    of course, the proof is that Citroen is the last of the TOP team to date to be penalized based on homologation (missing a picture)..... oh wait, that's the opposite of a proof.
    Of course, the proof is Petter Solberg's exclusion from your home rally. There were the Citroen Total cars so cleanly in the rules, of course.....

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