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Thread: Rally History (part III)
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9th August 2011, 14:03 #1511
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Hi all, many thanks for all those ERC results updates...
Here's some "corrections".. ad add-ons on stanislav requests...
1995:
Spa : 08 Jean-Paul Schammel/Eric Schock
Spa : 10 Luc Lennertz/Mike Vreven
Ardennes : 09 Olivier Collard/André Toubon
Ardennes : 10 Christoph Schmitz (GER)/Thomas Dienberg (GER)
Rota do Sol : 06 Laurent Galiay/Thierry Galiay
Rota do Sol : 09 Ken Skidmore/Kevin Clark
Rota do Sol : 10 Carlos Fulgêncio/José Martins
Açores : 07 Jorge Félix/Sérgio Paiva
Rouergue : 02 Dominique Kremer/Emmanuel Debois
Turquia : 09 Hakan Severge/Murat Özsan
Cevennes : 02 Richard Thiery/Cyrille Chevron
Cevennes : 04 Guy Hoffeld/Alf Gaspar
Var : 02 Christian Astier/Martine Astier
Var : 08 Tony Margaria/Gabriele Clerici
1996:
Ardennes : 10 Jean Koutenko (LUX)/Carlo Goeres
Roménia : 07 Dan Gîrtofan/Anca Bobes
Açores/BCA : 06 Paulo Rego/Fernando Nunes
Algarve : 04 Gustavo Louro/Raúl Ventura
Algarve : 05 Alexandre Rebelo/José Pedro Silva
ERC 77
Saint Amand : Cancelled
ARBO : I have only 1st: Röhrl/Pitz (Porsche Carrera RSR)...
Lorraine I have only 1st : Francis Roussely/Christian Berguet – Porsche carrera RSR
Donegal:
1. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/Austin Frazer (GBR) - Lancia Stratos HF -
2. #??? Campbell (???)/Detlev Speer (???) - Porsche Carrera -
3. #??? Adrian Boyd (IRL)/Vole (???) - Porsche Carrera -
4. #??? David Agnew (GBR)/Robert Harkness (GBR) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Bertie Fisher (IRL)/Ian Hughes (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
1975:
1/Polar Bergslags (I also have only top8), for 2nd place I have:
2. #??? Bror Danielsson (SWE)/Bo Sundberg (SWE) - Opel Ascona SR
1974 Firestone:
7. #??? Julio Gargallo (ESP)/Ignacio Lewin (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
8. #??? Juan Carlos Oñoro (ESP)/Juan Petisco (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #??? Paul Olsen (DNK)/Karsten Richardt (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -
10. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/"Ynad" (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
1973 :
Last Wiesbaden Rally (Coupe des Alpes as well) was held in 1971
for the 1000 minuten rally last edition held in 1972!
in 1969 there was a Makes European Chpship with : Monte, Acropolis, 1000 Lakes, Coupe des Alpes, Baltic and Munchen-Wien-Budapest
I dont know if those rallys count to drivers ERC... for wich I have one more race than Janusz: Romanian Donau Rally from 31/7 to 3/8
Best regards
Américo
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9th August 2011, 14:09 #1512
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Regarding the 1974 St Amand les Eaux discussion: Yes it was a ERC Round ...
Seen in documents below...
Best regards
Américo.
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9th August 2011, 14:18 #1513
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Originally Posted by stanislav197
1/Svenska - 7 th
7. #??? Jerry Larsson (SWE)/Torsten Palm (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -
4/Pnemant - 4-10 th
Only have top5...
5. #??? Zdenek Treybal (CSK)/Petr Stefek (CSK) - Saab 96 V4 -
7/Österreichische Alpenfahrt
6. #??? Dieter Benner (???)/Peter Urbanek (???) - BMW 1600Ti -
7. #??? Klaus Reichel (DEU)/Peter Pohl (DEU) - BMW 2002 -
8. #??? Walter Pöltinger (AUT)/Ernst Merinsky (AUT) - Volvo 142-S -
9. #??? Tom Trana (SWE)/Sølve Andreasson (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -
10. #??? Otto Karger (AUT)/Peter Wessely (AUT) - Matra Djet -
10/Danube
Only have top6...
6. #??? Hans Baier (AUT)/Günther Janger (AUT) - Volkswagen 1302 -
11/Geneve
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -
14/Coupe des Alpes
4. #??? Claude Henry (FRA)/Charles Gros (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Jean Valabrègue (FRA)/Sylvain Bernard (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Georges Branche (FRA)/Robert Julien (FRA) - Porsche 911-S -
10. #??? Jean-François Henry (FRA)/Dominique Corvi (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
15/ RACE
5. #??? Bernard Tramont (ESP)/Ricardo Muñoz (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Julio Leal (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA -
7. #??? Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Claude Roure (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? «Pedro» (ESP)/Ramón Canal (ESP) - BMW 2000 Ti -
9. #??? José Manuel Lencina (ESP)/??? Caballero (ESP) - Mini Cooper S -
10. #??? «Christine» (FRA)/«Biche» (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
16/ RAC
10. #70 G. John (GBR)/Ian Harwood (GBR) - Ford Cortina Lotus - 764'13"
Best regards Américo.
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9th August 2011, 18:22 #1514
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Originally Posted by sednem
Makes' Championship was a separate serie from ERC, so those rallies were not a part of ERC.
Donau Rally was planned as a round of ERC but there was disatster with Makes' Championship callendar as Monte Carlo and Coupe des Alpes were out of the championship as they allowed prototypes (no matter what that word means), so Donau was in short notice included to Makes' Championship. It is why I don't have Donau Rally on the ERC'69 list.
Thank you for some additions.
Regards
Janusz
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9th August 2011, 20:41 #1515
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Hi , Americo .ERC - 1975 : Rally Polar Bergslags - 6-8 th ; ERC - 1968 :Rally Sweden - 1-10 th ,Rally Pnemant - 4 th ,Rally Danube - 5 th , RAC - 1-10 th ; ERC - 1973 :Rally Munhen-Wien-Budapest -10 th , Rally Cyprus - 7-10 th .
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9th August 2011, 21:03 #1516
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[quote="sednem"]Hi Stanislav...
1/Svenska - 7 th - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
7. #??? Jerry Larsson (SWE)/Torsten Palm (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -
4/Pnemant - 4-10 th
Only have top5...
04 Kenneth Gram Nielsen DK M. Sörensen DK BMC Mini Cooper S
5. #??? Zdenek Treybal (CSK)/Petr Stefek (CSK) - Saab 96 V4 -
06 Carl Syberg DK J. Iversen DK Opel Commodore GS
07 Oldrich Horsak CS Jiri Motl CS Skoda 1100 MB
08 Walter Roser A R. Kec Renault 8 Gordini
09 Vaclav Bobek CS H. Bobek CS Skoda 1100 MB
10 Vic Dietmayer A Lambert Hahn A Volvo 142
7/Österreichische Alpenfahrt - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
6. #??? Dieter Benner (???)/Peter Urbanek (???) - BMW 1600Ti -
7. #??? Klaus Reichel (DEU)/Peter Pohl (DEU) - BMW 2002 -
8. #??? Walter Pöltinger (AUT)/Ernst Merinsky (AUT) - Volvo 142-S -
9. #??? Tom Trana (SWE)/Sølve Andreasson (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -
10. #??? Otto Karger (AUT)/Peter Wessely (AUT) - Matra Djet -
10/Danube
Only have top6...
6. #??? Hans Baier (AUT)/Günther Janger (AUT) - Volkswagen 1302 -
07 G. Bohrn A H. Gubier A Opel Kadett
10 Egon Culmbacher DDR Gunnar Zimmermann DDR Wartburg 353
11/Geneve
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -
14/Coupe des Alpes - it was not an ERC rally
4. #??? Claude Henry (FRA)/Charles Gros (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Jean Valabrègue (FRA)/Sylvain Bernard (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Georges Branche (FRA)/Robert Julien (FRA) - Porsche 911-S -
10. #??? Jean-François Henry (FRA)/Dominique Corvi (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
15/ RACE - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
5. #??? Bernard Tramont (ESP)/Ricardo Muñoz (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Julio Leal (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA -
7. #??? Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Claude Roure (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? «Pedro» (ESP)/Ramón Canal (ESP) - BMW 2000 Ti -
9. #??? José Manuel Lencina (ESP)/??? Caballero (ESP) - Mini Cooper S -
10. #??? «Christine» (FRA)/«Biche» (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
16/ RAC - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
10. #70 G. John (GBR)/Ian Harwood (GBR) - Ford Cortina Lotus - 764'13"
Regards
Janusz
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9th August 2011, 21:10 #1517
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ERC 1968
5. 5. Internazionale Donau-Rallye für Automobile Castrol-Rallye -
05 Carl Christian Schindler A Ernst Marquart A Volkswagen 1500 Sport
Regards
Janusz
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Originally Posted by sednem
1. #2 Billy Coleman (IRL)/Austin Frazer (GBR) - Lancia Stratos HF -
2. #7 SeanCampbell (???)/Pat Speer (???) - Porsche Carrera -
3. #8 Derek Boyd (IRL)/Rodney Cole (???) - Porsche Carrera -
4. #10 David Agnew (GBR)/Robert Harkness (GBR) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #18 Bertie Fisher (IRL)/Trevor Hughes (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
Donegal 77, 1st rally car I ever saw Billy Coleman's Chequered Flag Stratos, hooked on rallying since!!Keep \'er lit
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9th August 2011, 22:36 #1519
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Some were RESULTS : Rally Sweden 1968 - 1-10 th ,Rally Wisbaden 1968 - 6-10 th ,Rally Danube 1968 - 8-9 th ,Rally RAC 1968 - 1-10 th .
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Pretty sure Sean Campbell GBR (only because I recall someone from IRL saying in 1972 he'd had to travel to the North to get a look at SC's Escort!).
Not that the FIA "GBR" is strictly correct for anyone from there!
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