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Thread: Rally History (part III)
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9th June 2012, 10:06 #1891
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I have a reference that Ingvar Carlsson participated in the Swedish Rally 1979 in a BMW 320i.
However I was never able to have sure if he participates or not. Martin Holmes never puts this participation on their books but it his referred in the book of Jean Paul Renvoizé where he retired with transmission problems.
Also, Holmes says that there was a national competition. Did he participated in that category ?
Anyone could help me with this mistery ? If he participated what start number did he had ?
Also about Ingvar Carlsson does anyone knows what was the reason of his retirement in 1000 Lakes 1983 ?
And to finnish does anyone knows what was his reg plate in 1977 and in Acropolis 1980 ?
Thank You in advance
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Jorge
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9th June 2012, 11:12 #1892
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Hi Jorge,
I have Ingvar Carlsson with number 17 and transmission as a reason of his retirement. No info on category he did the rally (national or international) and I don't have info on his co-driver in that rally. Do you know that?
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Janusz
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9th June 2012, 17:13 #1893
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Thank You, Janusz !
I have Sven-Roine Hasselberg has his co-driver and number 17 is free !
Even the car (BMW 320) and co-driver are in doubt ! So, if someones know more ...
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Jorge
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9th June 2012, 20:25 #1894
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Janusz has sent me a list of all winning drivers of the Peace & Friendship Cup since 1973 - online now:
RallyBase - Peace & Friendship Cup ChampionsRallyBase Rallying Results: http://www.rallybase.nl/
WRC results and classifications 1973-2006
Also with ERC results 1992-2005.
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9th June 2012, 20:53 #1895
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Are you sure Jorge that Holmes mentioned on Carlsson in national category in 1979? In 1978 Ingvar Carlsson did Swedish Rally with BMW 320 also with Hasselberg and he had number 117 - there were 112 international starters, so probably it was a national category. Anybody can solve that problem?
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Janusz
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9th June 2012, 22:35 #1896
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No, Janusz ! I didn't say that Holmes said that ! As I don't find him (Carlsson) in any entry list or any mention in driver's statistics that Holmes usually do and I saw that in the book of Renvoizé Carlsson appears as having participated and retired with transmission problems I try to look for one explanation. And one of possible explanations was that Carlsson could have participated only in the national category. Just one possibility ....
Where have You found that number 17 ?
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Jorge
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10th June 2012, 10:47 #1897
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Sorry for misunderstanding about M. Holmes, Jorge. I checked a source of that No17. I got a list from a certain Christophe. It was not complete but there was about 100 crews on it. As I got some other list from that source, too and they were reliable I have no reason to blame it.
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Janusz
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10th June 2012, 13:00 #1898
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Ok, Janusz !
17 it is !
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Jorge
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10th June 2012, 16:21 #1899
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And what about the reason of retirement of Carlsson in 1000 Lakes 1983 ? Does anyone knows ?
Thanks in advance
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Jorge
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Peace & Friendship Cup:
1972 1. Egon Culmbacher (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
2.-10. ???
1973 1. Jordan Toplodolski (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
2. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Polski Fiat 125p
3. Egon Culmbacher (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
4. Dorin Motoc (RO) Renault 12 Gordini
5. Attila Ferjancz (H) Renault 12 Gordini
6. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
7. ?
8. ?
9. Vladimir Bubnov (SU) Moskvich 412
10. ?
1974 1. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Polski Fiat 125p
2. Jordan Toplodolski (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
3. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
4.-10- ???
1975 1. Blazej Krupa (PL) Renault 17 Gordini (150)
2. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini (144)
3. Andrzej Jaroszewicz (PL) Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye (124)
4. Statis Brundza (SU) Moskvich 412 (80)
5. Anatolij Brum (SU) Moskvich 412 (78)
6. Kolio Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini (60)
7. Jakov Agishev (SU) Moskvich 412 (59)
8. Attila Ferjancz (H) Alpine-Renault A110 (55)
9. Vlastimil Havel (CS) Škoda 120 S Rallye (48)
10. ?
1976 1. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 17 Gordini (90)
1. Blazej Krupa (PL) Renault 17 Gordini (90)
3. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS (89)
4. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye (84)
5. Andrzej Jaroszewicz (PL) Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye (?)
6.-10. ???
1977 1. Václav Blahna (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. Georgi Petrov (BG) Vaz 21011
3. Leo Pavlík (CS) Škoda 130 RS
4. ?
5. Jakov Agishev (SU) Moskvich 2140 SL
6. Vlastimil Havel (CS) Škoda 130 RS
7.-8. ???
9. Sergej Vukovich (SU) Vaz 21011
10. ???
1978 1. Jiří Šedivý (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. ???
3. Antonín Císař (CS) Škoda 130 RS
4.-10. ???
1979 1. Jan Trajbold (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. Bogdan Wozowicz (PL) Vaz 21011
3. Georgi Petrov (BG) Vaz 21011
4.-6. ???
7. Václav Pech (CS) Škoda 130 RS
8.-10. ???
1980 1. Václav Blahna (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. Jiří Šedivý (CS) Škoda 130 RS
3. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS
4. Andrzej Radecki (PL) Polski Fiat 125p
5. Vello Yunpuu (SU) Vaz 21011
6. Nikolaj Bolshih (SU) Vaz 21011
7.-10. ???
1981 1. Jan Trajbold (CS) Škoda 130 RS (180)
2. Vello Yunpuu (SU) Vaz 21011 (179)
3. Attila Ferjancz (H) Renault 5 Turbo (165)
4. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (164)
5. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS (150)
6. Georgi Petrov (BG) Vaz 21011 (142)
7. Nikolaj Bolshih (SU) Vaz 21011 (121)
8.-10. ???
1982 1. Vello Yunpuu (SU) Vaz 21011
2. Georgi Petrov (BG) Renault 5 Alpine
3. Tomasz Ciecierzynski (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO
4. Stoyan Kolev (BG) Renault 5 Alpine
5. Leo Pavlík (CS) Renault 5 Alpine
6. Zdeněk Pipota (CS) Škoda 130 RS
7.-10. ???
1983 1. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS (230)
2. Bublewicz Marian (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (204)
3. Soots Vallo (SU) Vaz 21011 (196)
4. Nedialkov Todor (BG) Vaz 21011 (153)
5. Tammeka Joel (SU) Vaz 21011 (140)
6. Polak Adam (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (138)
7.-10. ???
1984 1. Andrzej Koper (PL) Renault 5 Alpine
2. Christov Slavczo (BG) Vaz 2105 VFTS
3. Pipota Zdeněk (CS) Škoda 120 LS
4. Trajbold Jan (CS) Škoda 120 LS
5.-10. ???
1985 1. Kvaizar Svatopluk (CS) Škoda 130 LR
2.-10. ???
1986 1. Soots Vallo (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS (111)
2. Tumaljavichus Eugenius (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS (89)
3. Janeba Pavel (CS) Škoda 130 LR (89)
4. Trajbold Jan (CS) Škoda 130 LR (84)
5. Bublewicz Marian (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (74)
6.-10. ???
1987 1. Sibera Pavel (CS) Škoda 130 LR
2.-10. ???
1988 1. Sibera Pavel (CS) Škoda 130 LR
2. Tammeka Joel (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
3. Raissar Ilmar (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
4. Bolshih Nikolaj (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
5. Pipota Zdeněk (CS) Škoda 130 LR
6. Blahna Václav (CS) Vaz 2105 VFTS
7. Trajbold Jan (CS) Škoda 130 LR
8. Tumaljavichus Eugenius (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
9. Krügel Klaus-Dieter (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
10. Strauch Stefan (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
1989 1. Arazim Václav (CS) Škoda 130 L
2.-10. ???
Thank you. Ok so i will use official access to last year´s finish. But it´s pain in the ass, that we have to drive around whole hill. Proper jeep is needed for this roads :D
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