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    F1 teams previous incarnations

    Lets see if I've got this right and get a definite list

    Ferrari
    Sauber -> BMW Sauber
    McLaren
    Stewart -> Jaguar -> Red Bull
    Toyota
    Williams
    Toleman -> Benetton -> Renault
    Tyrrell -> BAR -> Honda
    Minardi -> Toro Rosso
    Jordan -> Midland F1 -> Spyker -> Force India
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    How about Arrows -> Super Aguri
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    You could also include the days when said teams ran other people's chassis, like the two years when Ferrari ran Lancias, or Williams' spells with March and De Tomaso entries (and the extra confusion of whether the Iso Marlboro and Politoys deserve to be counted as different from the early Williams. Not to mention the Wolf years...). For that matter, Tyrrell started off with Matras before a brief interlude with March.

    Frankly, it all gets a bit confusing after a while. Especially with Toro Rosso possibly changing its identity again next season...
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    Tyrrell didn't really become BAR, they were bought up and closed down, while BAR set up a new team... Many people who worked at Tyrrell followed Mr. Postlewaithe to work with the new Honda project, which was cancelled midway through 1999.

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    You did forget one:

    Ligier > Prost

    Oh - you mean CURRENT teams... sorry.

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    Top of your list

    How about Lancia -> Ferrari?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
    How about Lancia -> Ferrari?
    Ferrari were already in existence when they took over the remains of the Lancia F1 outfit. Actually, they just took the cars if I recall correctly.

    Now you could argue that Alfa Romeo > Ferrari, since the original pre-war Scuderia Ferrari ran Alfa's and previous to that Enzo had been Alfa Romeo works racing boss.

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