Qualification contingencies

[mileman]

Long range weather is showing possible rain for Saturday through Monday, May 19. What's the procedure if they don't get it in on the weekend? Would there still be two more days of quals...one being a "bump day?" Weather could create a major headache for the teams not in the top 11, with a minimal race setup time.

[!!WALDO!!]

Long range weather is showing possible rain for Saturday through Monday, May 19. What's the procedure if they don't get it in on the weekend? Would there still be two more days of quals...one being a "bump day?" Weather could create a major headache for the teams not in the top 11, with a minimal race setup time.

Lets say at the end of Saturday, 29 cars have qualified and Sunday is a wash out. Then those 29 are locked in and the final 4 spots will fight it out with only bumping occuring between those cars. More than likely the three attempt rule will be tossed in favor of 1. THIS IS ONLY IF QUALIFYING SPILLS OVER 6:00PM Sunday or MONDAY. (With so few cars they may accept all qualifiers that can post a time.)

If the field is full on Saturday and gets rained out on Sunday, it is over.


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[gofastandwynn]

Long range weather is showing possible rain for Saturday through Monday, May 19. What's the procedure if they don't get it in on the weekend? Would there still be two more days of quals...one being a "bump day?" Weather could create a major headache for the teams not in the top 11, with a minimal race setup time.

In years past the rules were that they qualify on Monday but the guys already qualified were locked in and could not be bumped, so the field would just be filled. For example if 31 cars qualified bythe final Saturday and it rained on Sunday, the the remaining cars would run for the last 2 spots only.

[Phoenixent]

They need to go back to the way it was. Fill the field as much as possible the first weekend. This eleven spots on saturday and eleven on sunday is BS. This two years of the same thing were teams a screwed if they don't make the first eleven because they need to keep the qual setup on the cars for another week. Gives no time to adjust for the race.

[DrDomm]

They need to go back to the way it was. Fill the field as much as possible the first weekend. This eleven spots on saturday and eleven on sunday is BS. This two years of the same thing were teams a screwed if they don't make the first eleven because they need to keep the qual setup on the cars for another week. Gives no time to adjust for the race.

I don't think it's BS. It basically creates 3 poledays/bumpdays. Unfortunately, weather got in the way. Seems like it does every year, though.

[Phoenixent]

I don't think it's BS. It basically creates 3 poledays/bumpdays. Unfortunately, weather got in the way. Seems like it does every year, though.

If the weather effects it every year then it's BS. I can understand it hype but then change it so the teams effected can use the week after bumpday for setups and not Friday before the race. Getting ready for Indy is all about the details and one day next week for setting up the car for 500 miles is a dumb idea.

[!!WALDO!!]

If the weather effects it every year then it's BS. I can understand it hype but then change it so the teams effected can use the week after bumpday for setups and not Friday before the race. Getting ready for Indy is all about the details and one day next week for setting up the car for 500 miles is a dumb idea.

It is interesting that in 1996 when a Penske/George peace deal was made it was Adam Saal, CART Communications Director that said the following after the 24 to 1 no vote.
"We are not going back to Indianapolis under these conditions. There is no need for a whole month there. We want to practice on Saturday and Sunday, qualify on Monday and Tuesday and practice on Thursday and race on Sunday. 8 days total rather than 30 days."
Even 12 years ago, set ups were in the books. Many years ago and I mean many, yes it required a set up for 3 plus hours as the cars that won did not change rubber during the race in the 2 to 3 stops. So your set up held or you didn't win. Today with 8 to 10 pit stops there is plenty of time to try things.

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[Phoenixent]

Many years ago and I mean many, yes it required a set up for 3 plus hours as the cars that won did not change rubber during the race in the 2 to 3 stops. So your set up held or you didn't win. Today with 8 to 10 pit stops there is plenty of time to try things.

I mean the small details and the double and triple checks on the car itself. You can wrench on a car during the race and get it close. If luck is on your side you might win. But that time between first and second weekend qualify is valuable to the teams and drivers. In 1988 Penske had one team car they used for fuel runs every day with all three drivers running it. That's the details that win races. Back then the first weekend would be put as many cars as possible into the field with the second weekend used to fill it out and then bump. Teams that are in this Glorious top eleven now will start tuning race setup this week. Something is not quite right about it as these other teams will have to still search for a setup to get in depending on the weather.

It is still dumb with eleven a day if the weather is perfect. But the is Indy and the weather has always been junk in the month of May. Hit and Miss Weather.

[!!WALDO!!]

I mean the small details and the double and triple checks on the car itself. You can wrench on a car during the race and get it close. If luck is on your side you might win. But that time between first and second weekend qualify is valuable to the teams and drivers. In 1988 Penske had one team car they used for fuel runs every day with all three drivers running it. That's the details that win races. Back then the first weekend would be put as many cars as possible into the field with the second weekend used to fill it out and then bump. Teams that are in this Glorious top eleven now will start tuning race setup this week. Something is not quite right about it as these other teams will have to still search for a setup to get in depending on the weather.

It is still dumb with eleven a day if the weather is perfect. But the is Indy and the weather has always been junk in the month of May. Hit and Miss Weather.

In 1988 Penske took all three cars the MIS and ran 500 miles between qualifying and race day. There are details for you.

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[Alexamateo]

I would modify it like this:

I like the pole day now where you can withdraw your speed and try to post a faster lap. It's almost like a bubble day but with top cars.What they should do is lock in those 11 cars, and then pay a purse almost like it's another race (which it is).

Then for later days let them do like Nascar used to do, if you wanted to, you could stand on your previous time, but if you think you could improve your spot, withdraw that time and go for it. Regardless, there should be a monetary bonus for the fastest that make actual qualifying runs. Go on and lock 22 after day 2, but if you're 12th after day one or 23rd after day 2, you don't have to risk the car on another banzai run, but of course you would lose any bonus for that particular day.