Massa Lost It?or Mechanical Failure?

[ioan]

How do you know it was that much extra fuel? You have insight into something we don't.

Pit stops and fuel don't always correlate.

[jjanicke]

[GP-M3]

I just don't understand the Fred to Ferrari talk.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT. Risk disunity of the team. Kimi is certainly as quick if not quicker than FA. But Kimi is a team player. Look at his willingness and non-complaint at Massa squeezing him at the start in Malaysia.

First things first... they need to tell Massa to not pull any stunts on Kimi at the start... no game playing with his team-mate. That was even the case in Brazil last year, Kimi might have been able to pass Felipe there, but no body spoke of that. Kimi knew Massa needed to finish 2nd, so he didn't fight for it. This time Massa looked like a chump almost cutting of his teammate.

2nd, Massa should be told that once Kimi passes him in these situations, that he needs to be content to stay behind him, especially when he can not (unlike Kimi) keep up with him when running behind further.

That is the way to see that Kimi is the fastest, whenever he is behind, he can usually keep up, but when Massa is behind, he then falls behind further.

[jjanicke]

Massa's not even close to Kimi in overall performance. He certainly has his days, but can't string together performance day in and day out.

[Juppe]

So if Massa doesn't give up his 1st place in Brazil than we would have had.
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I have no idea, why people seem to assume that the outcome would have been Massa's win in Brazil, if he didn't let Kimi win?

Are you insinuating that Massa let Kimi pass in Maleysia as well? I don't think so - it seems that Massa is a very good qualifier, but Kimi is more consistent with his race pace.

Anyways, it is very much besides the point, because they never were racing against eachother in Brazil so we do not know what would have been the outcome.

[ioan]

Anyways, it is very much besides the point, because they never were racing against eachother in Brazil so we do not know what would have been the outcome.

Right, why race when you know you'll be gifted the race anyway! You might risk to blow it somewhere on the your way to greatness!

[markabilly]

[ShiftingGears]

[ShiftingGears]

Right, why race when you know you'll be gifted the race anyway! You might risk to blow it somewhere on the your way to greatness!

If Massa is so good like you say then Ferrari wouldn't be playing the #1 and #2 game this early in the season, like you're suggesting.

The way I saw it was that Kimi just nailed him exactly where he had to. If Massa doesn't bounce back in Bahrain I think he will have to play #2 to Kimi.

[jjanicke]