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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny0405 View Post
    for some reasons, the relations are not good between Lappi and M-Sport
    What makes people assume so? Lappi wasn't able to bring budget for this year, that's why he had to leave the team.

    Then, considering the current season, I don’t see why it would be better to take Suninen over Greensmith: Suninen has probably more potential but on the current season, except in Arctic, he was not faster than Greensmith and he was less reliable (and both had technical issues so this cannot be a real excuse for Suninen).
    This is ridiculous. Suninen on his worst season is equal to Greensmith on his best season! In Monte Suninen didn't finish a single stage, in Sardegna he was cleaning the road and in Estonia the car was falling apart. Can't really say much from his pace this year. Last year he still got a podium and won a proper stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    This is ridiculous. Suninen on his worst season is equal to Greensmith on his best season! In Monte Suninen didn't finish a single stage, in Sardegna he was cleaning the road and in Estonia the car was falling apart. Can't really say much from his pace this year. Last year he still got a podium and won a proper stage.
    The issue is that it is Suninen’s 4th season with the car and he had 37 starts with it (Greensmith 17).
    And yes, he didn’t drive a lot but he did the early mistakes in Monte Carlo and Sardinia.
    I do not say he is totally lost but, personnally (and I can understand that there are other points of view), between a driver that has shown no real sign of improvement in 4 years and who is doing his worst year (+ not reliable) so far, and a driver who has shown some improvement in the last rallies (even if, as I said, I’m quite cautious as I’m clearly not a huge fan of Greensmith), I can understand the choice on Greensmith or to be more precise, the choice of letting Suninen go. But for sure, if you add the money aspect, it is way clearer.

    About Mikkelsen, I do not say he is awful in RC2 as he is leading both championships at the moment (with a race more in both however) and he is probably better than Greensmith. But at the moment, between him and Ostberg, it is quite the same level so it is not a no-brainer to take him. But a part-time deal between the RC2 (to help M-Sport to come back at a better level as Citroen did with Ostberg) and the Rally1 car could be interesting for both.


    To come back on the testing topic, it seems Rovanpera is also testing the Toyota hybrid this week according to Dirtfish
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    Come on now, Mikkelsen and Suninen are lightyears ahead of Greensmith when talking about potential and talent. No offence to Greensmith, but if we're talking about "traditional" factory seats, he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as those two.
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    Last edited by EstWRC; 6th September 2021 at 13:18.
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    Can we separate the 2022 Rally 1 car testing from the 2021 PET's and put posts in the thread below:

    https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...d-cars-(2022-)

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    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Why?
    Save having to look in two places for the latest info on the 2022 cars.

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    Toksport PET for Acropolis looking busy:



    Ingram also with them now:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Save having to look in two places for the latest info on the 2022 cars.
    this is testing thread and on that thread theres more like articles and it isnt that active.

    + the current gen. cars will be testing only till november and after that they are done....so we would have to come back again to this thread with the hybrid cars.

    thats why i write Puma or Yaris Hybris when i post so people could see the difference.
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    No need to separate testing threads! Exactly how EstWRC wrore....

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