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I understand that; nevertheless, some of us ARE interested in obtaining regular updates on Indy's ratings. Quite morbid, I know that, but it is what it is.

If IRL people read these forums, they...

You are way off. How many ideas have you come up with, or discussed, in your over 9,000 posts ?

Forums are for people to discuss and argue about a certain topic, or to pass on information they...

Just because you know something is going to be wrong/low, it does not mean that you should avoid keeping track of its status. Otherwise, how will you know if what you are doing is right or wrong ?
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That is what some used to say when the ratings used to be in the 0.8 range.

Look where we are now. A little bit lower, which is not impossible, and all of Indy will be at Motegi levels (can...

How long will sponsors wait ? Explanations don't pay the bills.

Yes, I tend to agree.
Nascar had deep support. It was also wider than Indy's.
Trying to explaing the IRL's inability to prosper, by pointingt to Nascar's "troubles," is just another form of denial....

Even with the 500, the IRL is now at CC levels. That cannot be spun into anything good.
If Nascar is falling too, it does not help the IRL any because Nascar will start to squeeze Indy even more.

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Once again, ratings dropped for the IRL on ABC. The Camping World Grand Prix at The Glen, ABC's second-to-last IRL telecast of the year, drew a 0.9 overnight rating on...

If anything, I think this should serve as humble pie for those who thought they were "so right" in calling for unification.
This is what you wanted .. this is what you got.

Now, all we hear/read...

The average Hockey rating, iirc, decreased from 0.6 to 0.2 points when it went to Versus. Is that something good ? :confused:

Why would anyone put WG and Milwaukee on ABC, instead of Long Beach, or Iowa instead of Texas ? This is no way to plan a promising future.

Once again, Indy is making the same mistakes CC made...

The point is that things are not as rosy as the Indy site makes them to be. Then, of course, that "optimism" could be another thing that was copied from CC.

It is not a matter of what "the option"...

The news may not be as good as they initially look.

Since Indy went from a 4.3 to a 4.5 rating, this translates to an increase of about 200,000 viewers. This alone may explain the "increase" for...

Is it because you are afraid of being told the truth ?
Is it a requirement to agree that OWR is better off now ?

It is one series and that is all we have to watch in the US, as far as OW is...

Unfortunately, this thread has nothing to do with "feelings."
It was about whether or not OWR was better off than it was last year. Anytime someone says "no," that poster is accused of harboring...

Oh, I am here. I am not going away. The problem is that not many new fans are trying to get in here.
The topic was whether or not things were better off, and I do not believe they are.

Why not ? Indy fans believe tv ratings and attenface are up, so why is it wrong to say the bulk of us ?
You see, that is the issue with OW today. Not only has Indy copied CART, but Indy fans have...

I wanted one series, but only if it was a good series. One bad series is no good !

We lost a lot in the last decade, and I see no real plan to bring back fans or to make new ones.

It is not...

All that is true, but it does not mean that things are better because of it.
Maybe the separation of powers was better.
Unification could have been the solution if the plan for the future was a...

Maybe all that wall banging is why you find it so easy to fool yourself :)

Indy fans are beginning to write, and act, as CART/CC fans.

The hope and loyalty of IRL fans did not prevent their...

That is ONE race. And that race had a drop intv rating this year, right ?

What about the rest ? Unless you count the way CC counted, which was alleged to be the "wrong" way to count, most of them...

Is that the type of presentation Indy gave to ABC, engine manufacturers and Title sponsors ? "Hope" ?

There has to be a reason as to why these companies should spend millions on your product. This...

In other words : wishful thinking.

Where is the evidence ? I fail to understand why your comments are looked upon gracefully, but other people's comments are looked with suspicion or with a semi...

If I had the answer, I'd sell it to Indy for a lot of $$$$$$

But, unfortunately, all I read are comments based on wishful thinking about how things are going to grow and eventually be the "way it...

So, is it ok then if TG does the same thing ?
You seem to believe that people will come back just because you have Indy.
It has not happened in 13 years, what makes you think it will happen in the...