Don't think we'll see Toksport back on the same level like we've seen them the last few years..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Don't think we'll see Toksport back on the same level like we've seen them the last few years..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Difficult to say it might happen that it will be even more drivers mixing and changing. As a matter of fact a appsence of a star driver opens up opportunities for other young drivers and a chance for Msport to earn some cash. Better opportunity might not happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Linnamae had a test with the Skoda Fabia RS Rally2 from Sarrazin Motorsport.
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Originally Posted by htr
Better to see road surface. Very important in MonteQuote:
Originally Posted by htr
“I am super-motivated for next year. But what also really motivates me more with Hyundai is the future. You see the guys in the team in the right places now with Cyril [Abiteboul, team principal] and F-X [Demaison, technical director]. Especially F-X. I know him from before and there’s nobody better to build a rally car. I am convinced this will turn into success with the people in the correct positions – for the future, for my future, this is the correct place to be.”
Sensing some awkwardness in posing the question, Mikkelsen takes the lead.
He adds: “When you look back on my Hyundai period last time, it was a disaster on Tarmac. Now, everything is new. As long as the car turns, I’m confident I will be quick.
lol the last sentence made me laugh. As long as the car turns
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...-with-hyundai/
Lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
The main issue for Tänak, Loeb, Mikkelsen, and even Neuville , was that the car understeered a lot, they had to use the handbrake to make the car turn in. Even in full speed corners.
So, if the car turn in in its natural behavior, and not need to be forced to do it, everyone is happy.
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Mikkelsen on tarmac… well, strange choice.
It gives a bit the feeling that Hyundai choose the strategy before (1 guy for fast gravel with Lappi, 1 guy for rough gravel, 1 guy for tarmac) and that they have chosen the names (at least for Sordo and Mikkelsen) after that.
For sure, there is no more pure smooth tarmac such as Catalunya and you can take good points by being clever… but Lappi did so in the last 18 months (Ypres/Croatia/Japan).
So let’s see (last time Hyundai did a strange choice in 3rd, they won back-to-back manufacturer title).
And Sordo has added a new driver «*removed*» by Hyundai while he keeps the job (whereas all people thought he was finished): Hanninen, Paddon, Mikkelsen (1st time), Loeb, Solberg and now Suninen.
Other point to be noticed (even if it’s more about WRC-2): Skoda (through Toksport) is losing a lot of people, at least for the top guys of WRc-2
- Gryazin officially to Citroen
- Pajari rumors to Toyota (will be 0 car in Devoluy)
- Lindholm left during summer
- Mikkelsen goes to RC1 with Hyundai
- Solberg’s plans uncertain (trying to rent the 4th RC1 Toyota now that it’ll be more available?)
- from Toksport team, at the moment, sounds only Greensmith are staying with Skoda. Well, and maybe Bulacia but very disappointing in the last two years
"The 2024 season is fast-approaching and I can’t wait to share my plans with you guys very soon! ����"
Oliver Solberg
Would really be a good thing to see him in a 4th Toyota Monster-backed car to support a bit the competition.
He was not totally disaster last year (compared with Fourmaux) and in this situation, having another Rally1 car with a driver with some potential is better than nothing.
I think it could be coherent in 2024 as the 4th car would be much more available (probably at least 10 rallies) compared with 2023.
M-Sport is more complicated due to sponsorship issue (and I admit I like the idea to see Lindholm there)
Huge program would be wrc2 with new Yaris and 2-3 events with 4th rally1 Yaris.
However, Skoda needs someone to keep their car on top level.. (sry, can't see Gus, or Bulacia doing that..)
If Skoda really takes wrc2 program as Manu then Toksport would change their cars..?
Very exciting silly season so far eith one new wrc2 car coming out.
True, the new (unproven) Yaris rally 2 shakes things up! Even before we know its gonna be as fast as most think..
Oliver in Rally1 car would be good for wrc1 championship! If its a Ford or the 4th Toyota... Doesn't matter, Olliver is one of the few guys ho could be competitive in the short term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Rally2 wil be nice to follow! Good drivers and 4 or 5 cars that are somewhat equal..
I hope it is Rally1. He deserves it and belongs in one.
Oliver has the one thing teambosses look for: natural speed.
It is easier to teach drivers to get to the finish, by holding back, than teaching them to improve their speed limit.
I think we will see Oliver in a Rally1 car in 2024. If it will be fulltime or part time remain to be seen!
Totally agree
Another is a will to get involved with publicity and promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Indeed, it's always been said it's easier to make a fast driver slower than make a slow one fast.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
So do we get a announcement from Solberg tomorrow ? :)
Seems M-sport just runs 1 car for Fourmaux, the second one is for paydrivers, munster do Monte Carlo, lindholm looks for money for some runs.
Loubet to Toyota Rally2-driving some said, i don't know how someone in Toyota picks him over others?
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Well a average former WRC driver or should I say Rally1 driver becomes one of the top drivers when thay step down to lower categories. Somehow thay way ahead of of others even though they are not showing that potential in Rally1 car.
Look at Greensmith for instance. Slowest guy in Rally1 and suddenly top 3 in Rally2.
Toyota needs to shine in MC with just 5 cars to accelerate sells so they need drivers with good credentials and so a former Rally1 drivers fit nicely to tha role.
Taken from facebook, still not confirmed.
"Good news .
Solberg to drive new Toyota Gazzo Racing built Rally2 Yaris in satellite customer teams WRC2 assault in 2024.
Major backing from long term partnership with Monster Energy and factory support from the Finland based Toyota Gazzo Racing World Rally Team outfit will enable Oliver Solberg to have a full season in the brand new GR Yaris Rally2 in 2024. Frenchman Stéphane Lefebvre who makes the switch from years of driving a Citroen will joing as the pair will tackle the opening round of the FIA World Rally Championship at the Rallye Monte-Carlo in January.https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/e...2/16/1f919.pnghttps://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/e...f1f8_1f1ef.png "
Will Solbergs run the satellite team maybe?
It’s not a question of Toyota choosing a driver; Toyota was always clear is a customer program in Rally2… so it’s just a question of who pays… and still for Toyota, it remains interesting to have good drivers for its beginning and even if I’m skeptical about his potential for a long time, Loubet is a former WRC-3 champion (and don’t forget Greensmith has finished 2nd in the standing this year).Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
However, I’m surprised of how much people Skoda has lost in such a short period … Lindholm (in the summer) and now Pajari, Solberg, Gryazin, Mikkelsen (special case for the last name)… it’s quite a lot and they keep only Greensmith (if he stays) as a top contender except if they have a rabbit in the hat
Skoda should be worried! If their works team is back and they have drivers like Greensmith, Cais and Joona it will be impossible to beat Toyota drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
I would say Lindholm is a special case too.. i guess he jumped to Hyundai for a chance at Rally1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Maybe time for Skoda to give Meeke a go.. even though he's old he is at least fast and experienced, especially with that car.
I would also pick Martins Sesks.. very fast on fast gravel and a quick learner elsewhere (but i doubt that will happen)
Cais has potential with a regular co-driver and a good test programme. He's also very marketable and they need a new Czech now Kopecky is in his twilight years.
After a decade of Škoda dominance a change would be welcome by most of the rally world I guess. Anyway let them fight and may the better win :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
No need to stress yet. We still dont know the speed or endurance of the newcomer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I wonder if the deals to drive the new Yaris Rally2 are quite favorable which is attracting drivers from Skoda. The financial giant of Toyota could well subsidise them to a degree.
You should quote the source so we can judge the credibility...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Maybe some Yaris Rally1 events also for Solberg, Loubet and Pajari, so no wonder that they select Toyota.
As I wrote previously if I had budget I would choose to drive the Toyota Rally1 over the Ford. It's possible you are on to something, these drivers going into the Toyota group could also rent the Rally1. I can imagine a WRC2 season and 2 or 3 rallies in the Rally1.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Yes! It´s definetely better to get 1 or 2 very good result (at least top 5) with the best car than drive many top 8 results with the Puma. At least Solberg and Loubet have a budget to do that. Maybe also Pajari.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
You all keep forgeting that Yaris rally2 is strictly a customer program, Toyota will not be running any rally2 program so there is practicly no chance of it helping to get a drive in rally1Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
As well as Skoda suddenly looking a bit light, Hyundai and Msport also need drivers who can show their rally2 to be competitive.
Will Suninen stay at Hyundai with only rally2 drives? If Munster is stepping up to rally1, surely msport need another driver for rally 2?
Two pages posted same thing yesterday..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
,,Xlerate'' and ,,The Ministry of Rally''.
You'd imagine so. It was only Bertelli who rented the yaris rally1 last season. Solberg and Loubet will definitely be trying to get some rally1 drives included next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by rp
Of course they have to pay, but it will help when driving already Toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by ictus