At least... This would have been a proper shit show without them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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At least... This would have been a proper shit show without them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
My weather app shows temperatures rising after today and heavy rain not snow. Recce in the snow is far from ideal if it doesnt stay.
I still think Evans is favourite as whatever its like he doesnt need to push for the win like Ogier does (and the others will).
Now that's interesting :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
You don't "pick your first or second choice". It's the choices that the tyres manufactures make. For example, Michelin's first choice is the Pilot Sport H5. Crews can use a maximum of 24 tyres of this model.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
So, there is no way that teams can choose the "wet" tyres as their first choice. Only a maximum of 12 tyres can be used throughout the whole rally.
Also problem of wet tyres is not down only to wear. They work better in a lower temperature, so if it's too dry temperature will build up too fast and "tyres will start to move a lot".
I think that this number of max tyre changes is mainly used to calculated maximum allocation per event, as it's written on that article in Sporting Regulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
And if I am not mistaken, WRC cars can drive without spare tyres (Tanak drove Sunday in Turkey 2019 without them).
Temperature goes both ways. If it's too dry/too hot the tire is worn more and "unstable" (too soft).Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
But if it's too cold the tire is too stiff and doesn't work. Hence my point that for R5s either one of Michelin/Pirelli can work better in colder conditions than the other. Normally these tires are used on rallies like Germany with 15+ degrees and rain, not in 3-4 degrees.
This is actually really interesting point, with service after each 13-16 km stage on circuit, will some drivers risk running without spare?Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
If they then get a puncture the car will not actually be on a "public road" road section, so they can drive without rubber on rim? (I think Meeke in Portugal 2018 got penalty anyway?)
So when predictions are even harder don´t forget Pickems!
Meeke in Portugal 2018 had two of his five tyres broken. One of them was only a rim, the other was slowly delaminating. On the way to service he had to do a short street stage. He decided to switch the rim only for this stage to save the delaminating tyre for liaisons where it was necessary to remain intact. After this it was changed to the rules that you need to start a stage with four intact wheels. I don't think he got a penalty though, if not for touching chicanes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
But yeah, I don't think anyone will need spares on Friday and Sunday. No public road driving on the way.
Snow still forecasted for Friday on mountain stages, also Saturday on ss 9-12. Heavy rain in MonzaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Could flooding be an issue? Right now it shows heavy rain three days straight, from Friday to sunday.
The mask xDQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Why Rossi could have troubled the WRC’s best at Monza
He's been a dominant force at Monza in the past and some at M-Sport believe he could have taken his maiden WRC win this year
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-r...best-at-monza/
He did use FIA illegal car at Monza, it was mentioned in this thread before.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
didnt was just roumors?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQEw27X...name=4096x4096
Mikkelsen my life #53
https://youtu.be/sYEzsP17aAo
How high up the banking are they going this year? Think it's just to the yellow line before
I don't believe that...especially with the Saturday stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I was going to say the same. Haven’t looked the article, but if Evans wrote it, that’s a bit shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
If it was around the circuit stages only, then maybe a top five, if he’s lucky, but outright on tarmac and with some real stages.... not a chance.
LOL have they ever seen his stage times? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
shakedown start list
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQa-IoW...g&name=900x900
Championship leader Elfyn Evans admitted the Friday and Sunday tests wouldn’t be like anything previously seen this season. If ever.
“They’re not traditional stages by any means,” said Evans, when asked by DirtFish to assess the stages.
“The sections on the track itself are not bad, they’ve been marked out well on the recce. It’s still challenging enough with the way the rubber is on the track.
“And the gravel bits yesterday, to be honest, weren’t looking too bad. The recce today was, obviously, a different picture with some ruts appearing in the gravel already.
“So that could be another story by the time we’ve run over them a few times.”
Evans’ Toyota team-mate Sébastien Ogier said Monza could provide the season’s biggest challenge.
“There’s a lot of gravel and mud on the circuit sections and that’s going to be extremely challenging with an asphalt [specification] car,” he said.
“Maybe that Mickey Mouse term is not the right one for this weekend because it’s quite a difficult challenge already.”
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/micke...monza-verdict/
Ivan Fernandez
@fernischumi
Interestingly, the first edition of the Monza Rally Show was held in these conditions. It was in 1978 and some snowy stamps have reminded us of the views today in the #WRC recognitions
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQoH_1X...name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQoJhBX...jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQoOpLW...g&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQoRVzX...g&name=900x900
No way.....he would be definitely the one to count on Monza circuit stages, but on Saturday stages he would have troubles to keep up with the fastest guys in R5....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Dani Sordo: "It's going to be a very difficult test because of the snow"
The Spaniard faces the last round of the World Cup "worried about the conditions of the terrain, because it will be worse than a Monte Carlo that I like the least".
He is the latest winner in a World Championship rally in Sardinia, and also the driver who knows Monza best for his performances and victories at the Rally Show. But Dani Sordo was concerned about the conditions of the stages after finishing the reconnaissance.
- Do you look favorite because you know Monza better than anyone?
-It is true that I have raced many times in the Rally Show, but this time it will be different. It does not look like anything. The sections are different, they go outside the circuit and there are also areas with three kilometers of land. It is not what I have run on other occasions.
-How are the road sections on Saturday at Lake Como?
-The route is not very beautiful. There is snow, there is fog, and it is worse than in those Monte Carlo Rallies that I like least. We have done the dry test, and it is useless in these conditions. It's like cyclists, not everyone likes the mountains. My colleagues have better references with the test they did for Belgium in the wet than I did, who did not do it and for this test I tested the car in the dry.
-But you have to fight for the title of constructors.
-It is clear that we are going to fight and push hard to try to give Hyundai the brand title. It is my only objective, because of the pilots I have not done accounts. That is not my battle.
-It is the fourth time he has raced in Italy this year, and he has won twice, in Rome and Sardinia.
-The truth is that Monza brings me very good memories, and I really like Italy, but now it's different. There are no people, and not only is it cold, but the environment is also very cold, without people.
-Do you already know your future? Will it continue to run next year?
-Something will be next year, but that is something that Andrea Adamo, the head of Hyundai, must answer.
https://as.com/motor/2020/12/02/mas_...93_493401.html
Thierry Neuville: "I wouldn't be very proud to be champion this year"
On the eve of the Monza Rally, the last round of the world championship, Thierry Neuville, still mathematically in contention for the title, answered our questions.
Thierry, how is this last event of the season looking?
"It promises to be a very difficult rally, with small gaps around the circuit during the first and third stages and a surprising day in the mountains on Saturday. We had a lot of fog, snow and soup during the reconnaissance and that It promises to be complicated. The role of the openers promises to be important and the choice of tires will prove to be decisive. A truck of snow tires has arrived in case the winter conditions are confirmed. "
Does the fact of having multiplied national events since August give Hyundai an advantage?
"I hope so. Toyota has driven very little on the asphalt since Monte-Carlo. This is not our case and we intend to take advantage of it. The car has evolved well. I feel very comfortable. comfortable behind the wheel. The main objective is of course to keep the constructors' title. "
As for the pilots, you don't really think about it even if you still have a mathematical chance?
"No. The day the cancellation of Ypres was announced my last hopes were gone. Elfyn just had to finish in the top five which he will be doing on a regular basis and I didn't have any more. Luckily. Either way, it's not the right year to be champion. I discussed it with my manager and told him that I wouldn't be very proud to be crowned after a year like this. Evans is in a wheelchair. Now he has not had any problems this season, which he is not immune to a glitch either. And then we can count on Seb Ogier to put pressure on him, also on a psychological level. It's going to be war! "
Second or third in the championship, do you mind?
"Yes I don't care. I've been runner-up enough times already."
But fourth behind Ott Tanak, would that bother you?
"Ah yes that's for sure, but that's not going to happen."
The goal of the weekend is clearly to end the season as you started it?
"Absolutely. We want to win. Everyone wants to win this rally. All the while thinking that there is a brand title to keep at home."
We canceled Ypres two weeks ago but we're driving to Monza, okay?
"Here we are on a circuit, there is nobody, no public. It's easier to control. And then you have to evolve. You have to continue to live despite the virus. It's my job and I want to keep working. We have to learn to live with this pandemic. It was important to restart to prepare for next season. "
Who starts when?
"Already next week with the Monte-Carlo tests."
Who will take place?
"Yes, I think so because they can also organize it behind closed doors."
Do you have any guarantees that Hyundai will still be present in the WRC in 2022?
"Today, there is no guarantee for anything. But I am confident, yes."
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We totally believe that you don't want to be a champion....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
love that translation what dimviii posted.
Evans in a wheelchair and Neuville had a lot of soup on recce.
Evans crash in first high speed braking, should be ok though.
Evans spun !
so slippery, the back just went away
Brilliant... well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Neuville just looked aggressive on the stage. Ott lost a lot of time.
And Rovanperä lost even more. I think he was hesitating on the long left on the circuit