Yes, but dont forget starting position :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bugwrx
Tänak is driving absolutely great, but he off course have an advantage. Hayden also has advantage to Mikkelsen starting a couple of cars back.
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Yes, but dont forget starting position :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bugwrx
Tänak is driving absolutely great, but he off course have an advantage. Hayden also has advantage to Mikkelsen starting a couple of cars back.
Meeke (and occasionally Loeb) has clearly shown that it's still a winning car in appropriate hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
...Not all of "us"Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I think they still have a lot of improvements to do. If Meeke did this rally he surely would be in the top fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
But they both do very well, especially with the pressure of competing with your team "mate."
(The whole "team mate" thing is off course a little bit of a joke, because the guy(s) in the same car are off course the first ones you need to beat to prove your speed.)
Sat 12:17 - SS12: WRC 2 Evans
Nine-tenths quicker than Lappi and he inches closer to second position. "Pretty good but hard on the tyres. We found something by default last night and that seems to have made the car a lot better."
Sat 12:21 - SS12: WRC 2 Tidemand
"This is mostly about training for Finland. I'll try to push harder on the next stage."
http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smi...rum/s5oeat.gif
Hope they change it back to one day sweeping next year. Its a little ridiculous with Ogier almost a minute behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
You got the point :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
yes but still, he did not make up any time on the repeated stages yesterday...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
Interesting splits on SS13 (those whicha are actually there).
Great rally so far, very exciting battles both in WRC and WRC2.
In WRC of course people are making use of their starting position, but even so it's not necessarily 'easy'. Looks like it's now Tanak's turn to capitalise and if he can keep it on the road and build a gap he will have earned the win. The Citroen youngsters fight is also interesting and they are much closer to each other than I expected but overall they are still lacking speed. In any case it's good advertisement for them and even if one doesn't continue with Citroen he has a chance to get a WRC drive in the future.
About starting position I also think 1 day championship order is enough. Anyway, this rally is probably one of the worse ones when it comes to start order.
Sat 12:33 - SS13: Ogier
He's through and his frustration is clear. "I have nothing special to tell you. Completely on the limit, a few times in the ditch."
Tanak again faster at 2nd split
He was first on the stages also on the second run, and then he needs to make new lines, so still a disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
But Ogier is not driving his best, prob focusing a "bit" on seeping, and he has a big weakness mentally when things are not going his way. But still clearly the best driver in the world - for now ;)
Tanak 5 sec faster
Tänak awesome time on SS13!
Its only fun for a while but dont worry normal service will resume on the asphalt.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Where is estWRC?
I think he'll go mad if Tanak wins. Someone should stay near him lol.
Lefebvre 2nd fastest closing to Ogier...
I have been all rally here but I just don't have words and I can't wait this rally to finish. I thought he will fight for podium but this speed is insane
I'd dispute that - I think no other driver would have brought home 5 successive podiums in the past 5 rallies despite the sweeping job. His mental attitude is absolute focus, even if he can't win, such that you just don't see him lose concentration. The only recent example of a major (human) error was Catalunya when he had switched off with the win in the bag. This is, as was said, the rally where sweeping is the biggest handicap - don't bet against him sneaking 3rd and another PS win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
i loled reading that.
Quickest again and Tanak's lead is up to 18sec. "Feels quite fast in the car''
Haha! Some nice quotes from Tänak on this rally!
Evans again faster,now 12,9 from Suninen overall
Fuchs rolled. Continues.
It's quite unusual for him to crash so often like lately.
Same happened to Nasser when he swiched to Fabia R5, car is too fast ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Ogier can't wait too.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Funny how no one is discounting him today - probably still too much time to make up but he's keeping Suninen and Lappi honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It's true that all drivers from here who drove both say that Fiesta is a lot more forgiving car :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I am not talking about going off, but when he gets in to mental ruts like he is in now because of sweeping - last real time was 2014 - it affects his driving. He is still off course still the worlds best rally driver, but he has weaknesses in his driving, and he is loosing more time because this mental state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
But you still have to get up VERY early in the morning to beat him in a Championship :)
So if I heard it right on WRC Radio yesterday - if the Drive Dmack Trophy standings stay like they are then Osian Pryce will have already won himself 2 WRC2 rounds in an R5 next year. Such an amazing prize.
Is Dani Sordo in this rally?... OK, timewise he is not so far behind but positionwise...bleh! (I used to be a fan)
It’d be nuts to keep the current starting rule next season, as ’17 new cars will be a sort of reset for WRC. For sure VW has some guarantee that this issue will be fixed next year and probably the pressure they were making (and eased up a bit before Italy) was a failed attempt to see that change happening during this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
You can see how much the road order affects in Poland. Which makes Mikkelsen together with Tanak the men of the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
Actually we can't see how much it affects the results. We know it does but we don't know how much. For example is the difference between running first and third so bad that Mikkelsen is 40 seconds ahead of Ogier? How come that Latvala is on the very same pace as Ogier while is running a lot more down the order? I tend to believe that it's not only about sweeping but more about the things in Ogier's head like Lunde said (which is of course related to sweeping).Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
You have a point of course, but this happens to Sordo now as well, not only Ogier. And Sordo is doing very good job so far this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I think the image below would describe EstWRC if Tanak doesn't bin it...
http://i.imgur.com/rb8eIpc.gif
But Sordo has never been good in these fast gravel rallies like Poland and Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Now I see that Aasen also rolled on previous stage and had to retire.
Tänak saying no grip but didn't lost much on this longest stage. Cmon dmack!!!!
I think Sordo is affected by both position and his lack of speed on this type of rally.
Also I have a feeling some drivers that say they are pushing but not getting the times are overdriving and instead losing time, Camilli for example. Sordo and Latvala seemed to be the only one that recognised their driving was not up to par and that's why they are not where they're supposed to be.
the top 3 are in a different class on this rally, on some stages Neuville too. Paddon is making some mistakes, maybe trying to hard, and losing some time because of that. Tanak and Mikkelsen have been more efficient so far.