I have a hard time deciding if Hanninen's crash was unlucky or if he went in too fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
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I have a hard time deciding if Hanninen's crash was unlucky or if he went in too fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
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the spot caught a lot of drivers off guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Yeah, there was a lot of ice, many drivers had some troubles there...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXmv4CZajyY
How come Latvala was 'lucky'? For not making any mistakes or...? Or Toyota in general? Ok, JML overtaking Tänak can be called lucky in a way but what else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
Not surprised the lad in the yellow/pink Clio wasn't that fast. He was fantastic to watch though, and massively added to the atmosphere. For me he was one of the drivers of the event!!
No blame has been given! We were all just relieved to not be soaking wet!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
The showboating by some of the crews at the back of the field was quite amusing, which also lessened the blow!
The last photo... that's Col St. Roch. In 2012 (WRC) people stood everywhere around the road even on those walls.
We tried to watch at that bottom hairpin pictured, but was turned away by the marshal. It was perfectly safe, but it felt like he couldn't be bothered with a group of spectators.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I'd call JML lucky too. His stage times were so so and somehow he finished 2nd. So good drive without mistakes, but lucky end result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I still don't get what makes him lucky in this case. It's rallying we're talking about here - it's not about stage times, it's about the end result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
Yes, there were a few:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
Sordo was slow
Breen was great
Toyota/Latvala were lucky
too fast. but if I see it correctly, he blocked the wheels under braking and went straight into the tree. perhaps he could have avoided it if he had stopped braking, like most other drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
yet, he's only 2:15 slower than ogier. if you look at times from other years, that's not unusually much for monte carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
2016:
Ogier 3:49:53.1
Mikkelsen +1:54.5
Neuville +3:17.9
Østberg +4:47.7
2015:
Ogier 3:36:40.2
Latvala +58.0
Mikkelsen +2:12.3
Østberg +2:43.6
2014:
Ogier 3:55:14.4
Bouffier +1:18.9
Meeke +1:54.3
Østberg +3:53.9
It's a Corsica type thing. The stages are winding and long, which makes for large gaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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https://s5.postimg.org/vzurdfifb/grandma_balls.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by mozesii
It was actually the right-rear suspension that was damaged. This is from when the car spun and the rear end hit the bank on the inside of the corner. Surprisingly enough, the right-front suspension seemed ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Both actually, look at 1:15Quote:
Originally Posted by car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0yl...ature=youtu.be
Not from our neck of the woods, we have to finalise plans within the next couple of weeks so as to get flights, rental car and hotels at a reasonable rate. Mind you we will probably hang around until after Finland too.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolx
lol at 7:06Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Where are you from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000
My answer was to EstWrc :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by tolx
Ha ha ha. Timaru is a long way from Poland :)
(I used to live there)
Oh, sorry, just got it.
Well, would be glad to meet if you decide to go to poland.
For those who like flat-outs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9-I0XPqeL4
So Evans Neuville and Breen didn't lift at all.All the others lifted and some lifted and braked. These are the videos I like,to compare passes at near limiter.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Thanks for posting Slowson.
Hard to make a direct comparison in MC from year to year, but just had a quick look at 16' vs 17' car up to the top of Col De Turini.
First run both years with pretty similar conditions with Lefebvre and Mikkelsen who were fastest, Lefebvre is 20 sec faster to the top.
That's 15km which means the 17' car is 1.3 sec faster pr/km in uphill if i didn't calculate that wrong?
End time is 13.51 for Lefebvre in the C3 and 14:09 for Mikkelsen in the Polo over 21.36km which is 0.84 sec pr/km
Mikkelsen?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Right you are! I had heard Becs (I think) say it on WRR and took it at face value... I should have known given the severity of the impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
This was my 19th Rallye Monte Carlo, and what to say, for sure has been one of the best i have seen ever!
Here some pictures from "my" Monte.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=ee24e949cf
if I remember right Lefebvre was on slicks,do you know at what tyres was Mikkesen at 2016?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
some very nice photos Simo,thanks mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Simorally86
You're right for the tyres, but anyway is this comparison for wrc cars, or R5 vs WRC cars?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Super soft on Mikkelsen in 2016Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
WRC of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Looking at Mikkelsen's time this year in the R5 he did a 14.17 against 14:09 in the Polo, so maybe it was quite a bit better conditions this year.
Ah, I see You compare Mikkelsen in 2016. Well yeah, Lefebvre was on Soft tyres this run, which explains his fast time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
14,38 faster r5 time at 2016 (Lappi) so seems much better conditions this year.Lets wait fornext rallies to have a better view.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
hard to see with that stupid smoke, but i think breen braked a little with his left foot, while neuville and evans didn't touched the brake pedal.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii