If only interested to watch WRC events, then 7x 1month subs is 91eur vs whole year 120eur. (some ERC rallies also matchwith these dates)
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If only interested to watch WRC events, then 7x 1month subs is 91eur vs whole year 120eur. (some ERC rallies also matchwith these dates)
It'll probably be an audio only option, similar to 2023 if you close your eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Does anyone know when the app will finally be on TV?
Guys, is it possible to somehow replay the yesterday's SD live footage?
This?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://www.youtube.com/live/x-YSGPz...l-ZHNfGo6YQ19E
Anyone getting chrome cast to work? Error A-2006 from Mac and no icon on android
Samsung TV now has RallyTV app that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by stanm3
Mine did work after few attempts. After refreshing site. Quite sad that there still isn't the app available on official android tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Not Chromecast, but getting Error A-2006 when trying to play videos from the Monte rally with my Apple TV 4k (3rd Geneneration). Obviously they've once again managed to mess something up, since the same error shows up on completely different platforms. Oh well, at least AirPlay still works fine for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Any promo codes available this year?
Casting from the app works after an updated at least, still not from Mac after restarting.
Ah, yes, I was searching for it in RallyTV and didn't see any play button there. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Why there is no broadcasting from service? It was nice and interesting to watch the mechanics working on the car.
I go press live on MC24, and is sent to MC2020 coverage.
why RallyTV crew,why?
Working hours too long is my guess, German working lawsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gonek
In the TV guide, I can see that coverage of stage 12 starts at 14:00. But that will open with various introductions, highlights from earlier stages, etc.
Is there a way to tell what time the first car will be off the line?
Edit: https://www.rally-maps.com/Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2024 and scroll down for the schedule. Real times may vary, of course.
I am still turning down sound to not having to listen to Becks and whoever of the brits commentating with her.
As long as there is no expert with WRC2 or higher driving experience. For me, the native speakers provides a lot of useless bla bla, we deserve more than that!
Been using ewrc for years for this purpose, unless I need the catch up which is useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
what are the chances of WRC uploading these 52min full highlights on youtube since the rally is already done?
I mean, that would be THE BEST stuff to have out there not behind a paywall. Even if they upload only a week after the event or something like this.
Oh, no highlights on RedBull Rally youtube channel. The highlights there used to be a little bit better and longer. Nothing from Monte so far
you have 30min highlights from each day on redbull.tv absolutly freeQuote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
The visibility of Red Bull TV is nothing even closely comparable to the reach you can get on YT. They would have a lot more views on YouTube and get some proper money from ads as well. I really can't understand it...Quote:
Originally Posted by ictus
some thoughts:
- Mike Chen really elevates the commentary, he is more assertive and informative and doesn't constantly get confused like PK for example, also they seem to take more breaks to allow the co-driver to be heard. Becsy seems to be pulled up or down by her co-commentator so it's crucial who she is paired with. They just need a driver with recent at least Rally2 experience for some actual expertise. Someone like Greensmith for example would be fine.
- I liked the picture in picture showing stage preparation or stuff that happenes like Solberg fixing his wheel, it's a great way to show the atmosphere of rallying. I would prefer if this channel is muted since the wheel gun for example when showing Oliver changing the wheel was distracting
- I like that they copied Dirtfish to show things between the stages. The pre-day interviews that Coling Clark does are one of my favourite moments. Unfortunately Julian Porter is not the best for this as he does not have the charisma and rapport that Colin Clark has with the drivers. Also it seems they didn't choose the right moment as the crews were busy and nobody talked to them. Good idea bad execution.
- I liked that for 2 stages they stayed long and showed even the little guys. It was good for them and also nice to show the reality of rallying and also to have a comparison to how those guys were driving and the top guys.
- The app and website are still unacceptable: randomly getting logged off, can not open links in a new tab by right clicking, also I suspect the way the site is made is terrible for accesibility for people using screen readers for example, the mobile app randomly decides not to work or desync sound - I watched mostly on PC. In general it's still worse than the old app/website and costs more. I am glad I decided to only take a month sub and I think that between the calendar and my own travelling this year I only need 3 or 4 single month subs.
What I would personally expect so that 120 euros per year is worth it:
- an expert commentator like I said above, with recent high level experience
- an app and website that works normally
- as a minimum I would expect to be able to select on board feed from at least 6 Rally1 cars besides the TV feed. This is maybe a nice to have but all other online motorsport streaming services give you this option - the plane is there and the individual feeds get to the TV van anyway, it can't be that hard to add more streams (if you know what you're doing and have the hardware). As a bonus it would be awesome to have the helicopter channel as well and it would be something unique.
- "ambient" sound channel (no commentary) - also nice to have but surely it's trivial to add...
I believe these are not exagerated considering what is available for other series.
there's this:Quote:
Originally Posted by typhoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUhoMj3DVb4&t=113s
Me too ! And new-boy Mike Chen is as annoying as all the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I don't think they want to give the impression that they're giving them away for free, whereas as with Red Bull TV they can pretend they have sold the rights on some kind of commercial basis, even if in reality it's just an internal transfer of money within Red Bull. It's probably more palatable to the likes of BT Sport who have been sold a domestic rights package, inclusive of those highlights shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by typhoon
Which is why the UCI went with Discovery/Eurosport for the MTB World Cup; RBTV isn't going to bring in massive numbers of viewers........only those who already know about the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by typhoon
Another issue with You Tube is that it rather publicly highlights how many people, or rather how few, may actually be watching your program...
That will cost a lot more than 120EUR a year... These things are so much simpler on a small circuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I don't think so. The plane is circling overhead receiving from all on boards and relays them to the tv truck where the director can mix them as they want. It's already there they just need to set up extra streams. Is there something I'm missing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
"we" as in "internet forum nerds" who know more about the sport than 99,99% of the people capable of deacent commenting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
For the majority of viewers it's more than enough
yep, the "just set up extra streams" part1 : )Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I suppose it's a hard task for the ones that made the great app and website, they can barely make the 1 stream work on your tv :pQuote:
Originally Posted by wyler
it is as simple as this: pay more.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I found totally nonsense this "best services for null costs" request. and the related heavy irony too.
My wish to improve Rally.tv
- add the option to FX audio
- the ability to control volume with more than just on/off
- better arrangement of the library or re-live videos - there are times when e.g. due to SS delay you can't find the right video or continuation of the race footage
I don't think you want to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
a. It's already the most expensive motorsport streaming service. I'm not requesting everything for nothing as you claim.
b. The additional streams are trivial since they have nothing to do with geography or the remote-ness of WRC as the data is already at the same place as the existing stream, maybe you are unaware, but video streaming is not exactly NASA grade technology anymore.
c. I can't pay more since this is all they offer...
sorry, maybe you don't know much about what you talkin about, some things are out of focus...Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
a. it's not the price that matters. it's the cost. there's a difference. price is what customers pay, cost is what is needed to run the service. doesn't matter if it's already the most expensive service as it is. it matters that the cost to run/upgrade is higher than others. in other services, the cost is a) limited by context (track with technical facilities vs remote areas with production to be arranged) or b) divided into bigger numbers (1€ a fan for f1 will cover way more than 10€ a fan in wrc)
b. maybe you are unaware, but the real cost and difficulties are in data management, storage, and broadcast (to be clear: from "the same place" to you) . twice the streams, twice the capacity, twice the costs. it's not as easy as getting two camera feeds and you can choose in real time between them. u can have a split screen, where the data transmitted is the same, but if you want 2 streams at the same time you have to double the capacity, you need to have both streams from the broadcaster to your tv to choose one in real time, it's not that you choose and the broadcaster sends only one... (in fact, major problems of rallytv/all live are not in tv production, but on servers and data management)
c. that's the point about requesting everything for nothing. you can choose not to pay for sure, but you can't decide what is worth that price. at the moment that's the cost for basic ( or even under par ) production. if you want more you have to pay more. if you want the basic service that's the price. if you want something for a lower price, probably is not enough to sustain it.
aha, ok now we're getting somwhere. about the multiple streams, yes it's about capacity but i'm asking for 6 extra not 600... There are third parties that specialise in things like this, I know they would have to stream all of them constantly but that could be done through an intermediate point at said 3rd parties which would then restream and offer the capacity to get it to consumers. It would be strange to move the server infrastructure around with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
As for costs and price, I can decide if it's worth the price, that's fundamentally what I do as a consumer, I see what's being offered at what price and decide to buy it or not. I can also express my opinion about what would make it worth it for me. Even putting the on board streams aside for a moment, the improvements to the website and app and having an expert commentator are still valid missing things. People are in here asking for a simple volume control for crying out loud. That has nothing to do with remoteness or anything, the webdesigners and programmers worked in an office not in the forest with sticks and stones...
It's unacceptable for this ''new service'' to be way worse than previous one with increased price. To me, it looks like they want to do it by minimal effort and get as much as they can to their pockets. Sorry, our reality. One helicopter or 30 drones. What is cheaper? They could make a site or app, when you could sign on and record with your phone and someone from office could then choose what to show on service, or at least for highlights. In any case everyone have their phones up and record every car.
agreed, but you seem to miss always the same point! all the things you consider so easy to do, they cost money. and most of the things you talk about (like 3rd party restream) cost really a lot. maybe the volume control not so much, it depends on the architecture of the website/service that probably is outsourced. i agree it has to be upgraded, definitely, i'm just saying it takes money, and i'm not that sure the customer of rallytv are enough in numbers to cover it.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I suspect Rally TV is aimed at broadcasters. That's where the aggregated audience is. RallyTV is for the hardcore fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
And broadcaster demand high-production value, HD quality content.
They can't just put some stream from some fool filming on his iphone (probably in dangerous positions!)