they had Martini as sponsor these years.
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they had Martini as sponsor these years.
It's very likely; it was a huge move when announced in the summer of 1998; a similar time to when the first CMR game came out. Ford were completely committed, and by the time the 1999 season started Martini had signed up (as Dimvii has already said) - and there was the Ford/McRae TV advert. WRC was a far bigger deal back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Managarium
Yes I know about Marini, I started waching rally when I was a kid, 25 years ago.
Sorry but I've forgott to mentioned that in video, they told that no other driver was payed as high as McRae back then at Ford and that remains today. So basically if we put a list of highest payed drivers ever McRae is no.1
His salary was larger then Makinen's in Mitsubishi, larger than Loeb's in Citroen, larger than Ogier's in VW... aniway you get the idea.
I’m not sure we can ever know the real figures, but it was certainly regarded as the highest rally salary in history at that time. I recall that it was said that Nicky Grist was on $1million salary as he negotiated his contracts with the teams and not his driver. If that number is true or not I don’t know, but he definitely has talked about making sure his contracts were with the team and not the driver so he was secure.
I’m sure Loeb (Citroen) & Ogier (VW) were pretty good contracts, but how they compare to McRae at Ford who knows.
Does this include money from sponsors or not? No idea of the figures but for Loeb for example it could be a significant sum.
EDIT: a quick search brought these up:
https://www.sportekz.com/money/wrc-drivers-salaries/
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/ri...oeb-net-worth/
https://celebdoko.com/colin-mcrae/
Remember Petter Solberg had 60 mill NOK a year at subaru, highest paid sportsman in Norway those days. Not shure exact amount in euro those days, but 7-8 mill?
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Loeb was at 10 millions per year at Citroen.Same ammount if i remember correct was and Ogier a vw.
Kalles hair style
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjofpEDW...name=4096x4096
Saw this one on facebookQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
At the moment we have Virves coming up through the ranks but there is also another young talented Estonian
https://dirtfish.com/rally/meet-rall...est-wonderkid/
X-Raid Mini is back to Dakar... not sure it will run every round of the W2RC tho.
People only seem to care about Dakar, right? ALmost no one knows that theres a full W2RC championship after Dakar.
The "same thing" happens to WEC. People know the 24h LeMans...and thats it. The Indycar suffers from the same thing with the Indy500 (tho I THINK the Indycar series is more known, based on the social media followers and youtube viewing numbers).
Do you feel WRC's Monte Carlo is the same? That people only remember this round... and then nothing more? Cuz RIGHT NOW I feel Monte Carlo is not even that big of a deal to the general racing fan. I feel we dont even have that ONE HUGE race that everybody stops to pay attention =/
Sad
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/your-...drivers-50-41/
Whoever knows anything about rally history... top 50 WRC drivers of all times. It's very hard to compare different eras, but this made me laugh.
#47 Greensmith and #48 Serderidis :D in front of Andruet (Monte winner & ERC champion) and Darniche (Monte winner & 2 times ERC champion) :D :D :D
#46 Therier, the would-have-been 1973 world champion (in an era with no drivers championship) behind Bourne, Kresta, etc...
Readers were allowed to vote. Some people always ”funny”.
Ingvar Carlsson on 41th. Well deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
That is called democracy ...Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
There is always a strong bias atrecent drivers. Many people may not even knowt he names of Darniche, Andruet, Therier ...
and yes i agree : Therier should be in the top 10, if not top 5. He was viewed by his peers as one of the most talentetd ever ...
but he didn't win more because?Quote:
Originally Posted by djip
I was going to say the same! That's a blasphemy!!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I always associate him with this car:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Mazda_Ra...7_Gr.B_001.JPG
Yes, also. But most with the 323 4WD...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/your-...drivers-40-31/
Drivers from #40 to #31
I'd say all these drivers are worthy, but the order... Auriol #32 and behind Mikkelsen? Still missing drivers like Delecour, Gardemeister and Duval, are they going to rank better than Auriol and Munari?
I know it's not written by a journalist, but still :D
I was a little kid when he won my home rally with the RX-7. I looked at this car in amazement, knowing that somewhere there must be some better world:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/8...d-polski-1984/
I don't understand how you can complain when it's a voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Some time ago I created this table where WRC drivers are sorted by giving points for certain achievements: starting a WRC rally, winning a stage, getting a podium, winning, winning in more than one brand of car, winning the title, winning a title in more than one brand of car. And then those are weighed with some factors and we get a total score that looks like this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Not all drivers are included automatically. Let me know if someone is missing and should be added.
I literally wrote that I know it's not written by a journalist. Making fun of a silly ranking is not complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I find it strange that they are publishing a top 50 list when we were allowed to vote for three top drivers. I would like to know how many votes Ingvar Carlsson received, how many people think he is in all time top 3? Releasing the top 10 would have been enough.
i have seen it live at Acropolis,one of the best engine sounds i ever listened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Some people vote for their favourite driver, some to troll (see best WRCar poll).Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
And some only care for the little flag on the rear windowQuote:
Originally Posted by becher
it was not trolling, Octavia is Best WRC ever !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
Delecour is there, at position #30, behind... Kenjiro Shinozuka:Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/your-...drivers-30-21/
What is the story about his road accident in a Ferrari F40?
Shinozuka in front of world champion Salonen :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I was thinking that older drivers were penalized by younger voters who wouldn't know them, but then you see Sordo, Latvala and Meeke (never championship contenders apart from maybe Latvala once) in front of Hirvonen, with Latvala and Meeke being in front of Neuville as well. Guess fan favourites really matter :D
https://itgetsfasternow.com/2022/12/...-2022-wrap-up/
Here's my sum of the 2022 WRC stages. New ones, fast and slow ones, but also cancelled ones.
In 1994 he was going for the title, started by winning Monte Carlo, but had a road accident in a friends F40 and broke his legs which caused him to miss a lot of the season. 93/94 was his best period driving wise and he could have done it, personally I think he would have missed out anyway as the Toyota and Subaru were starting to out develop Ford with stuff like the active diffs etc, although Makinen did win 1000 Lakes in a one-off factory drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Shame he didn’t get the chance as by ‘95 the Ford team was a not run by the factory and wasn’t really competitive and after that he went back to French Championship with Peugeot and the 306 Maxi.
Thanks! I didn't know this story.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/your-...c-drivers-5-1/
Tanak #1 and Martin #5... I have a feeling many Estonians voted :D
This DirtFish ranking is pure joke! Can not understand why there is no Urmo Aava and Karl Kruuda, when we all know what Estonians are doing...Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Merry Christmas everyone! Happy Holidays!!
"Shitara Town 2 was meanwhile cancelled because Craig Breen went off on the first run of the stage, damaging a barrier." - Officially yes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Did anybody keep a red flag tally?
Well it was a fan vote and what can you expect when big newspapers urged people to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Anyways I got Loeb, Ogier and KKK as top3 so my conscious is clean
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I didn’t vote, but if I voted with my head I would have Loeb, Ogier & Kankkunen as my top 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
If I voted with my heart, Mikkola, Toivonen & Vatanen with an honourable mention for McRae.