Have you guys already forgotten last few years. Such as "best rally evr" "so much snow" "WoW!" ...?
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Have you guys already forgotten last few years. Such as "best rally evr" "so much snow" "WoW!" ...?
rallytravel.com @rallytravel
Great new fast jump on SS Svullrya to rival Colin's Crest - but some more snow would be nice please !!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CanPd28WcAIFwsZ.jpg:large
Shakedown to be moved after protests over it..
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122725
That's quite old news TBH.
Hi all,
We will go first time in Sweden rally.
Want to look the fast section with jump.
Our plane for second day is Colins Crest, third day is a big jump before finish of Power stage.
Where can we watch the jumps in first day?
GPS coordination for jump SS Svullrya?
Best regards,
Zdravko
I really like M-Sport's this year livery. Nice scheme, simple colours and quite 'agressive' look as a result. Whom do you expect to do better job from Fiesta R5 factory guys, Elfyn of Eywind?
Wow, Kirkenær Stage looks very very bad...
@TorAndreBorrese
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...69271304_o.jpg
Thanks a lot!!
Sweden's SVTSport says Rally Sweden is in "crisis mode" due to the weather...
https://justpaste.it/r6ye
Oy oy oy that Kirkenaer stage looks brutal. I guess of all the stages that's the one where it's going to look the worst.
Take gravel tyres and run it as a gravel event if need be. It's 2016 - you can't be relying on the weather to ensure an event goes ahead.
Looking at the pictures it will be a miracle if the rally takes place. i guess they will decide it tomorrow or it would have been cancelled already?
But im still opitmistic.
Great conditions for Ogier in the test :)
https://twitter.com/patriksandell/st...73708156506112
On Paddon's fb page I asked about the road conditions on their test, and how they changed during the day. Paddon: "The road is staying more consistent then we thought. Of course there is gravel but the road underneath seems quite hard so no ruts."
Yes, but thats some hundred Kilometers more North than the Rally regionQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Snow from Thursday, but around +2 degrees... wet and cold, brrr.
http://abload.de/img/hagforsxnsqw.png
but isnt this the solution? to move the rally somewhere more north? its been years now that we have this weather problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by tc10a
It's not the lack of snow itself that is the biggest problem but weather or not the roads will be frozen or not. Rally Sweden are not allowed to run it if the roads have become unfrozen/too soft.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/oroa...derlage-rallytQuote:
• Finns det någon säkerhetsaspekt? – Vi ska leverera en frusen väg som är säker för tävlande och publik. Är vägen för lös och spårig drar man i nödbromsen,
det är det vi använder föråkarbilarna för. Det är ”nollbilarna” som tar beslutet i slutändan.
When the roads becomes unfrozen, driving rally cars (heavy/lots traffic in general) on them will ruin the roads completely and that would mean no more rally
Sweden since RS would have to pay for the restoration of the roads and I also doubt that RS would be allowed to use the roads again if they would be ruined.
To organize a rally event on public roads, the organizers need approval from the road owners but also from authorities like the county administrative board for Värmland,
this permission usually contains allot of different areas like safety and environmental effects.
So frozen gravel = not good but doable.
unfrozen gravel = not allowed.
Current forecast promises at least -5 degrees for Thursday night and up to -20 degrees for some locations for Saturday. That is more than enough to freeze the roads, moreover, road base is still very well frozen because very low temperatures a few weeks ago (that is the reason of a lot of water on the road-nowher to go). That water on the roads dissapears in hours when temperature drops below 0, it is expected to happen on Wednesday. Some light snow is also axpected for most locations after the temperature drops below zero. So, It will be very difficult for drivers because there will be frozen gravel on open sections, ice and snow in the forrest.
Kirkenjaer stage is one ugly place, it is almost like lake, it is in depression and all water flows into this place after melting. This and Karlstad SSS are in danger I belive, but both stages are relatively pointless short sprints totalling a bit over 15km of rally.
So, it will be proper challange for drivers and very fast rally (more cutting) and no room for mistakes.
Brynhildsen, no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filip Giedo
Rämmen @ezo0n
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaoXNATW0AApiPD.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cam7_9iWcAAn9Js.jpg
Fredriksberg @ezo0n
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaoWlMRW0AAw-G5.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CanZ-YyVIAEWmY7.jpg
Shakedown @rallytravel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaoHfyQWwAAHPx2.jpg:large
Rally Sweden just posted an official update: http://www.rallysweden.com/2016/02/t...-rally-sweden/
Apparently even the reccce part of the rally might risk to ruin the roads.
Quote:
Safety is the deciding factor where the roads must be usable for the competitors but also for the rescue vehicles.
– It is first and foremost the safety of the competitors and the spectators that decides if a stage is run or not. If we find the
road dangerous we cannot use it, says Clerk of the Course Stig Rune Kjernsli.
On Monday Rally Sweden plans to present the current status of the roads and plans or how to go through with the event
, made in cooperation with FIA and WRC Promoter.
Troublesome weather situation for Rally Sweden:
The weather situation, with above zero temperatures and rain in large parts of Scandinavia causes big problems for Rally Sweden.
http://www.rallysweden.com/2016/02/t...-rally-sweden/
Its the first time in years the forum kids were not crying 2 months before the event for the lack of snow and this happens, you really disappoint me people.
https://twitter.com/ezo0n/status/696410662080286720Quote:
6 km after start of SS Rämmen, at the first left hairpin. Terrible! @RallySweden @RallyingUK #WRC #RallySweden
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Caoly6AWIAA4B0n.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Caoly57WwAAAtW9.jpg
Rämmen @ezo0n:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaogMzrWwAAIOsY.jpg:large
Massively difficult decision for the organisers. If they don't think they can rely on the weather forecast then I think they're going to cancel it.
I'm guessing there's no way they can limit or postpone the reccy? Equally there will be pressure to make a decision early enough that everyone doesn't travel over to the rally - only for it to be cancelled on arrival.
No way they let the cars out on recce if the road surface isn't frozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Looks faster than Sordo on the tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Had a run through Svullrya today and made a video with GPS so you can see where i am easier.
Lots of ice so no worries there i think, they have put some gravel on top of the ice on the main road so it's much better than it looks.
Could be a challenging recce though unless they put some gravel on the narrow part as well haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk90KegMOwQ
If the forecast is correct and colder weather arrives during the night between Wednesday and Thursday. Would it be possible to re-schedule the itinerary?
Cancel the Hagfors and Karlstad SSS stages. Recce on Thursday+Friday AM. Shakedown Friday afternoon. Then put Friday's stages on Saturday and Sunday?
Ther is simple solution. Road base is still OK, it does not melt so quickly. So, there is 60 cars they need to pass the road twice, that is 120 cars. Stages must be closed for spectators for recce period and opened for locals and recce only, secondly, reduce recce speed. Such amount of cars make the top surface muddy but nothig bad. I have lived nearby such roads for 18 years I know what I am talkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnlyRally
This is what Autosport is speculating as a possibility. Sat-Sun rally - http://beta.autosport.com/news/repor...f-cancellationQuote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
[QUOTE=Such amount of cars make the top surface muddy but nothing bad.[/QUOTE]
Even with studs?
so maybe the teams won't have to worry about the 14 round calendar after all ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
It depends on how far down it is frozen. It didn't really get cold until after Christmas and then the snow arrived more or less at the same time (working as insulating blanket)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
so I don't think it is that deeply frozen. The organizers also seems to be very concerned which I don't think they would be if the ground was frozen.
For a first time watching - spots on 0:22 and 5:28-5:34 caught my eye :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Ok spots just a shame they don't start earlier i think 0:22 could have been more interesting then. 0:40 could be nice with 700m of flat before it, that's 2km from the parking area.Quote:
Originally Posted by sindroms
Note that 6:05 is the junction at the bottom and the jump is at 5:55 but the tape is 5m into the forest so not good for amateur filming or foto.
Video from 2011 https://youtu.be/nvQVUZLLoV8?t=3m31s