Some places I haven't seen so far - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoV3IW2Au58
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Some places I haven't seen so far - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoV3IW2Au58
I am open to the possibility that he is not the current 3rd best driver in the championship, but at the same time I can't think of any strong evidence to the contrary? Meeke possibly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
Just got back home, I was not able to follow closely saturday and sunday except power stage, and I didn't miss anything I guess. After Loeb's mistake it was a huge anti-climax, everyone playing it safe and drive home. Nothing interesting going on.
A general though: Loeb's return after 16-18 months and being the only one able and willing to match Ogier's times, says a lot about the lack of competitiveness of the championship and Ogier's superiority. Let's see what Latvala can do in other rallies.
Kubica was on Friday on the same pace as Loeb and Ogier, and faster than them at half stages that day, and of course Saturday monster ss10 ; ) Of course he was out of fight in gen classification but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Frustrating isn't it. Funnily my hopes for some competitive teams this year would go to.... Ford. Meeke is fast, but still prone to mistakes, Ostberg, don't want to comment. Hyundai seem to be keen to cruising until new i20 arrive, may be don't have other choice anyway, still I very much doubt the new car will be strong and competitive right from the start. Welcome to VWRC 2015:)Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMcqOL21Kpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vvy73bcio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4XZrMF599A
Incredible grip from Pirellis on dry tarmac. Other cars slide a lot of more despite going much slower in corners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quad
Yes, Kubica said that pirellis are very good on dry tarmac, but are worse on wet than Michelins.Quote:
Originally Posted by latek
Will be interesting to see how Pirellis are on gravel nad snow
This time I agree 100% with N.O.T.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Kibica's last crash (after SS 14 finish) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhBryeZMCpw
its a good start... of course you must feel sad of all the other times you were wrong but its a good start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Why he was going so fast? It was after the finish I think and he was going flat out still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negaiss
That is a goog one....thank's made....hahahaha...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Looks like a proper crash to me. What were those dreams about brake pedal?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Negaiss
Finish is where video starts. He pressed brake pedal, and pedal went to the floor and brakes didn't worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by latek
May be that is because it was the throttle:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Quad
EDIT: this is not funny though, someone might got hurt
For me there are two guys this season who can spoil this VW 1-2-3 every rally and even maybe take some wins, Meeke and Tänak. Can't see anyone else getting close on speed. Very happy that Latvala got second, good start for his WDC and if he can avoid those stupid mistakes then everything is possible.
to me seems like a brake problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
have we seen this video,totally flat out.!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai-XnEjEvYs
Meeke inspecting Loebs tyres
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1422217759.jpg
Even if he did have a brake problem he caused it by overbraking... ususally when the pedal goes to the floor is due to overheating.
It doesn't change much... 2 or 3 crashes in 4 days doesn't make a difference.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
And one more unimportant post by you in this thread is not making any diffrence either :o 1000 or 1001 ho cares
you bothered to reply though... not so unimportant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quad
Alright. I'll bite...
The time has come for Latvala to beat the current VW protege,
the way Ogier did it in Citroen to prove he is a true champ material.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a jaw!
It's a ONCE in a lifetime opportunity one shouldn't miss!
you mean Latvala has to form an alliance with capito to dethrone Ogier ? not very wise. In citroen is ended with that bald ugly manager losing his job and ogier to be beaten senseless by the champ and move to exile...Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
most of times yes,but sometimes with less prone to fade pads.Its not first time that even a wrc car fade his brakes.Last part of stage was very demanding to brakes,plenty of brakes for u turns,a lot of downhill,and not high speed to cool them.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
thats right.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Anyway this guy is crazy,really hasn t got any FEAR.
Yeah, You have 60-70 meters to brake from 150km/h+ to zero. It is brake problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Latvala isnt ready for something like that.First he must be fast at any surface like Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
And as you saw at Monte is not ready.
The only he can do now is to be close at points with Ogier,and if Ogier make a mistake to pass him.
So its a matter of luck,unfortunately for him,and for us.
If this happened to a guy who did not have such a reckless style then i could believe that this was not his fault but with this guy ?? nope...
On this event of course he deserves his 3rd place, but the post I replied to was saying he was the 3rd best driver, he isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
what do you think? enlighten us.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
who was ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
i agree with this. if it was fading brakes then he should have a bit of indication of them going off. he could have slowed down a bit earlier. i dont believe it was catastrophic failure at that momentQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I already did with the numbers, they speak for themselves, aren't they? But You're the better car expert, tell me I'm wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
In an interview Kubica said it was even 170 km/h. He was trying to save it with a handbrake, but couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
As Kubica said brakes were ok for the whole stage and there were no sign they were getting worse, brake pedal was hard until end of stage when brakes suddenly failed. Also keep in mind that he started building his team 4 weeks ago. If sponsors are giving him money for driving and are waiting for a better results then we should also wait. At least he gives some color to rallying and a hot topic :)
It's stupid to say it was his fault when on video it clearly shows that brakes didn't worked at all, only handbrake when he was trying to save.
Yeah, we're stupid, ignore us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quad
Kubica said on facebook (video), that there wasn't any problems with the brakes during the stage. Just hot brakes on the stage before.
Just before the finish line he wanted to break, but the pedal went into the ground and the only thing he could do was to use the hand brake. He says it was a technical failure
discussing if his 3rd crash in a single event was due to technical problems or not is retarded... i feel at least 5 IQ units lower in intelligence now that i got involved in this argument... the problem is i have room for that but you guys... you guys i worry about.
you did with numbers out from your mind= you did nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
you dont know the speed
you dont know where is exactly the flying
you dont know how long straight is before the flying
you dont know when he started to brake
you dont know what corner is after the car dissapears from video,and with how many km/h can run through
you dont know if there was any brake failure
you dont know how is the fade of brakes
i just watched loeb and latvala onboard in wrc+. they braked about 100 meters before flying finish. kubica was flat on the throttle until he crossed the flying finish
Keeping the pressure on as the arrogant did it... he'll make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
The arrogant is prone to mistakes when the menace comes from within the team.