for the good of the sport must be Ogier and Meeke in same team
even not in my dreams!
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for the good of the sport must be Ogier and Meeke in same team
even not in my dreams!
NOT, AL14 etc.. what you say now to the rumours you master-cynics ! :D
Please Ford grab this chance to come back... bring in Ogier and almost guarantee the Title !
My gues;
Ogier goes to Citroen, forget about history. Battle whit Meeke could make things interesting. Lefevre wil be dropped.
Latvalla, I see him ending up at M-sport. (whit Tanak and Camili)
Mikkelsen to Toyota, getting nr1 status whit Juho an Lappi as nr 2 and 3.
Hyundai are happy whit current line up, whit the Polo out of the way there car could be best. Driver line-up is ok to.
Ostberg whit D-mack.
My hope;
Skoda somehow getting upgraded to WRC team, than everything stays the same for the drivers. But i dont see that happening...
But first, wait for official confirmation of the news.. would be really sad if true.
The VW team is not going anywhere, do not worry.
http://i.imgur.com/a0H2f7R.jpg
Tell that to the 80+ people who've probably just lost their job you irrelevant, unknowledgeable clown.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You have some problems with me but I don't have with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Let it go... you didn't even understand what I mean. just ignore me.
What about VW- RedBull private team? So maybe NOT have the answer?Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Could we maybe have a special VW topic? Soon it´s not rumours anymore.
You have to relax Italian infidel, do not take everything so personal, especially from people who are quite basic and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
you will live longer and have way more fun.
I agree with you. Apart from Östberg. I'm afraid he'll get unemployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
Despite developing an all-new Polo WRC to 2017 WRC regulations, Volkswagen does not intend to provide it to customer teams.
"The costs involved in developing the 2017 car will be absorbed into the existing R&D budget. There are no plans to offer it through a customer programme. It will be mothballed,"
1° Lets Open twitter and facebook
2° And Start begging VW to allow ProDrive, Skoda, RedBullRacing, EKSrx to run the new Polos as costumer team!
3...2....1.. go
With a help from Ford Europe it becomes quite reasonable to get the jackpot (both titles).Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
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Colin Clark @voiceofrally · 2m2 minutes ago
Ogier last week @Rally_Forum ""I admire Malcolm and one of my regrets is not having worked with him, but who knows what the future holds"
At least it doesn´t look good for Lefebvre, Ostberg, Lappi - whoever still hasn´t got a contract for 2017.
Curious what would happen with Skoda Motorsport. Customer service for Fabia will need to be maintained, maybe some drivers will end at BRR (like PH Sport and Citroen).
Lefebvre has a contract! But I think for Ogier, contracts can easily be terminated...Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
They haven't said anything about closing down Skoda Motorsport.Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
Last week Skoda Auto announced profits for the first nine months of this year of around 1 billion Euros.
Can’t help it…I need to have a sincere NOT rage moment: VW’s board members are sick retarded bastards without a plan! Despite their millions euros wages and bonus they were useless defending their company and the car industry against dickhead eco politicians that will only be happy when humanity returns to caves. They’re a bunch of backstabbers unable to understand the nature and heritage of rallysport. I hope they all die on their electric self driving pieces of junk!
An interesting point about Ogier: if he decides to stay next year, he would be in quite a similar situation to Kankkunen in 1986. Forced to leave the best team which withdraws the championship in a context of rule changes (even if it is not the cause in the VW case). And with a huge challenge: winning a championship with different manufacturers (only Rohrl and Kankkunen made it hitherto).
In my opinion, he would be a thrilling challenge to see.
He will not sit out for sure, he wants to beat Loeb's run of consecutive championship wins, and I still think he is far superior to everyone to win in any car except Toyota.
I am sorry but what are you on about?! If any company lies to it's costumers it should be penalised, if the small ones do so should the big ones. It's easy to lie and damage environment while filling your pockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
It's in fact VAG which enjoyed a competitive advantage through cheating. It's completely wrong to portrait them as some sort of victim of a higher eco-terrorist plot. I am well aware that they weren't alone but other's cheating doesn't give anyone a right to cheat as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Word is the jobs are safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
I am not afraid about the VW Motorsport employees. Even if VW fire them they must easily find a new job in a minute.
Toyota should offer at least one of the VWdrivers a contract. Imagine all the knowledge they are sitting on after testing the 2017 car for almost a year now. Guessing Ogier will go to Citröen and Mikkelsen and/or Latvala starting with Toyota
Wow, I'm quite shocked. Ogier to M-Sport like Malcolm always wanted?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Your rants are far better than that troglodyte.
There's substance and passion, not merely an unjustified contempt of everbody and everything in every post for 10 years...
I think luring FX and other senior engineers away could be very important too for the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Don’t be naïf; this had nothing to do with consumers rights. Modern wars are taken at the Markets and like the old ones they’re ugly and bloody. VW was another European sitting duck company blown up by the US authorities. Comparing to GM’s faulty ignition process or Exxon Valdez affair anyone can notice that VW and BP scandals damage control were totally ineffective because of American protectionism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
VW’s WRC pull out may not be directly linked to dieselgate’s financial burdens, like it has been suggested. The emission scandal repercussions spread widely into many circles of our global society and some of them tried very hard to take advantage. The ecologist lobbies, with vast media connections able to influence public opinion, are among those. VW was fast and massively pressured by opinion makers and politicians* to let down their efficient combustion engines and speed out the development of other technologies, regarded as eco friendly.
This ‘pollution burden’ was probably the main reason for Audi and VW motorsport withdrawals and it may affect other manus and series. WRC needs to get clever and do some hard PR work in order to show everyone this is a sport that deeply respects Nature and effectively helps to preserve the environment.
*http://www.reuters.com/article/us-au...-idUSKCN1280G7
very good point TWRC!Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
VW mechanics and engineers... Top people in their departments also without work for next year. Should they be signed by teams it means other workers are without jobs..
And not to forget the car, probably a sophisticated machine never to see the stages. What a waste....
Given their total dominance of the VWRC for the last 4 seasons (and every chance that this would continue in the new car), it could be a blessing in disguise that they leave and we have a close, competitive 2017 Championship to enjoy ...
Or will whoever gets Ogier then dominate ?
To be fair, it would be a bigger loss for the sport if Ogier is unemployed rather than Östberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by MM WRC
Gladly. And as you insulted me a while back its not me who has the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
A shame that you have to join the ignore list as N.O.T. has enough cynicism and negativity for everyone to put up with.
I think 2017 won't be easy for Ogier.Meeke and Paddon have tailor made cars to their likings but the Frenchman will have to step into the unknown with minimal testing and zero adjustmests.First rallies will be crucial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ok let's get back on topic now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ogier will be champion in any car. He is the best. Cars diference not so big
Excactly, he has won events in 3 different cars. His pace is genuine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Will he be as fruitful as he has been in VW? Not sure, but he will definitely be amongst the leading times.
Tänak + Ogier in M-sport ? would be pretty awesome