Is this reasonable? I really don´t think timepenalty is fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Is this reasonable? I really don´t think timepenalty is fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Sesks onboard looked very fast, very good stage, very brave also. I do not believe either other Ford can beat this.
But Oliver can, 10.5 faster, Taka even faster on splits
Forget the Fords, he has gone quicker than all the Hyundais;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Negaiss
Don't know what to make of him beating all the Korean cars from FIRST on the road :o
Whaddya mean the stage was an hour ago and I missed it? It's been starting at a civilised time the last couple of days. Mumble, grumble.
Hyundais now on Msport level. Lol
They seem to have taken Citroën‘s absence very seriously and show the same level of competitiveness…Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
That was a pretty good stage from Sesks. It took a Toyota running about seven stages later to beat him.
Some people have more money than sense and will pay the fines to do what they want. A time penalty reiterates that safety measures are not optional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I do not think Neuville was on a cheating tour...Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
I didn't see it if you mean the severity of it didn't warrant any punishment. I read that you thought only cash penalty IS fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I mean cash penalty would be enough for this. Not being a decider of the whole rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
I disagree, you're given the rules, you follow the rules and you take safety elements seriously. It's part of the game same as hitting chicanes, late check in.... Cash only fines gives rich people license to do what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Like, to most people, a sign saying 'NO PARKING - €300 FINE' is a deterrent not to park there. Rich people read 'PARKING €300' and park there. Unless there is wheel-clamping there is no difference in those signs.
Edit: If Neuville broke the code, he gets the punishment else no point having the rule.
I also get a sense of cost-cutting in Rally.tv these last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
If there is a gap in the coverage from the first two cars, they could tackle it with more cameras and radio relays. Instead they have less coverage and hide it by starting later.
I'm not sure that I mind the delayed start personally, because I just watch the stage on rally.tv, so in a way they are editing out the "dead air" for me. But if I was also looking at live timing or something like that, this would be infuriating. And rally.tv is the product for the most committed fans, people who watch the whole of the stages not just the highlights, so they are relatively likely to do that.
Disagree totally to that. The bottom of your relative talk is everyone want to break safety rules. This was not about getting the best parking spot in a city by just paying fines. You need to haver better perspective than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Not doing your helmet up is stupid, and deserves a penalty that can mean you can lose a rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I doubt you'd have seen fan footage in that stage's live show. Maybe hours afterwards or in highlights?Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Actually, you're right. They can make the sport a lot simpler and cheaper then and get rid of helmets altogether. Balaclavas, HANS too. They're just opportunities for stupid penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
It is only Ogier who always gets away with things like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Greg Munster doing great job at stage end intervieuw's:p
Pajari all in this stage?
After Croatia of few years ago, every time penalty as punishment seems silly. Ogier ran a red light, was partially at fault for a crash on road section and disobeyed police orders to stop, pushed away a policemen with his car... no time penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Kaizen, Katsuta.
Now your arguments are totally insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
I agree we are disagreed. End to that discussion.
A good time by Armstrong this time in the Puma, beating 2 Hyundai and his 2 teammates.
Evans has 0.7 lead over Katsuta for Sunday points, and Solberg is 1.8 ahead of Pajari. Other gaps look too big to change without an off.
Evans has not been quick on Red Barn so far.
Rally-Journal:
Lappi conserved his studded tyres on the long Västervik stage and lost well over 20 seconds to the fastest time. At the same time, team-mate Adrien Fourmaux slipped past him into fifth place. Part-time driver Lappi does not need the points, so the Finn effectively handed an advantage to the Frenchman, who is targeting the world title.
“There were no team orders. I was just too slow. I probably didn’t push enough,” Lappi smiled at the stage finish.
Talking generally then Thierry must be very happy he managed to win that title two years ago, the only chance he had and took it
It’s like he is totally different drivers since then, last year and also this year so far. Seems so lost
The car is bad. Seems that hybridless i20 and Hankook tyres combination do even worse on stages. I thought they build a new car, when Demaison did say the car Hyundai Motorsport build was fundamentaly wrong. But it seems that they build it even worse or what. Or update it and failed completely. I really don't see they can manage to improve their Rally2 challenger if they can't even manage to sort this car out. Maybe let go Neuville, because he may be too long in the team? Or Cyril, he clearly can't manage the team...
Hyundai doesn't need to quit from WRC, soon nobody will want to drive it.
He lost his hunger I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Korhonen takes Rally2 victory, Suninen second and Joona third
It's ironic that Neuville has been there all along, everything has been built around him and yet he now has the worst struggles with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
If he continues like this I can see him retiring and Hyundai (if they stay) giving the Rally2 car to Paddon (who won ERC x2 with it) .
Very solid rally by Jon Armstrong showing good pace and quick learning how to adjust and apply improvements to the car.
He's been a top driver for years, he could probably have managed a move to Toyota at some point if he wanted, but he didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I did once look up where Neuville lived, and it was about a two hour drive from Hyundai according to Google Maps. Maybe that's it.
What are the chances he will move to Prospeed since the team is belgian and they building WRC27 car and Hyundai won't.
Not a bad time on powerstage for an almost retired man:D
Even not bad at all, winning the powerstage
I dont see that Porsche/Skoda mash-up with village-team aero being any more competitive vs a factory Toyota (or even the existing Rally2 cars).Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Hyundai finally comes alive with the last stage
Or they just have better tires than Toyota drivers
Sad for Taka, what the hell happened yesterday morning.