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Whatever the reasons were, it seems like there was lack of conversations as she sounded very disappointed.
I believe that if it had been talked thru nicely etc.. there would have not been a need for such post.
E: maybe Sami found a girlfriend, who said ,,no way, Jose''.. :D *
*(just a reallyreally funny joke)
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-s...am-management/Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
The only way I see "four" entries from M Sport is if they keep Munster thanks to Serderidis, have Sesks and Rossel (Grayzin, Solberg, whoever) sharing one car and either keeping Fourmaux or actually hiring a replacement for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Or they found a guy like that lithuanian in 2020 who just pays for a full season in an official car.
Hyundai should sign gryazin and/or rossel. They need to start looking into developing replacements for tanak and neuville. They aren't going to be around for that many years.
If they (Hyundai) retire in 25 or 26 there is no reason to do that sadlyQuote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Latvala using the black TGR livery in 2025 so maybe the WRC cars wont change...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdPJL6hW...pg&name=medium
I got a strange feeling that Gryazin did back off for Neuville to climb on 7th place. His comments was weird after that and it only add to that theory. And when he was asked before rally if he will somehow ''help'' Solberg, he then firmly told he will do his own thing, that he will not back for anyone. And then that time come and Neuville was on 7th place. Because it could be done hardly if there was 10 or 15 seconds between them on Toyota stadium stage. So I got questioning if Gryazin have been contacted somehow from Hyundai or Neuville himself. It could be a crucial moment that the Hyundai could actualy start looking at him, since he is doing well on tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
It could be awesome if he got some event or two in a rally1 car to prove himself. We don't had that few years ago. There was very little opportunities to newcomers, and because of that many of promising drivers are not seen anywhere now.
wait, where does this "msport with 4 cars" is coming from? that'd be great tho.
hope they rent all rally1 cars they have. hope hyundai and toyota rent their other rally1s too. any chances?
hard to believe factory teams would risk renting their cars to may be beaten BUT you can fix that by having the rented cars also being able to score manufacutrer points, eh? if GUS rent a hyundai for one round and finished as the second best hyundai, the point goes to the manufacturer. valid idea?
The designer aligned the slots and you start rumouring about that...
No you can at most nominate three cars, they could do a B team like Katsutas NG TGR thing a few years back though.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Ville is Kalle's backup co driver. I don't think so. Maybe Miikka Anttila or Jarmo Lehtinen ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Humber
hmm sure, but they can rearrange this rule - IF both manufacturers (hyu/toy), msport and potential privateers were interested in doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
Wasn't back then the thing with those "satellite teams" that only two cars could be entered? And what was the thing with Citroen junior f9r example or Ford stobart etc.?
Yes, I think at the time they were allowed maximum two official factory cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
His Power Stage interview was interesting as well, talking about the dream of Rally1 for 2025.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
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This delayed announcement on 2025 team from Hyundai starts to smell not so grate.
First, Toyota beat them on WMC, then on PR front announcing 4 full time cars with new gun in one of them. While H delayed announcement indicates on some unexpected aftermath after Sundays disaster. Plus,inability to make decisions. We all remember their delays with building this new car and how did it turned out.
I hope I am mistaken here, but there is smth strange around the Hyundai team right now.
I think that they wanted first to see what Toyota will bring up. Then they could somehow answer with maybe Adrien in 3rd car and 4th sharing between Sordo/some new youngster or even Lappi/Mikkelsen (if they will get those two another shot).Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
I don't think they will wait M-Sport to announce their lineup because they're not real threat (on a paper).
Why I'm so sure Adrien is in third car, because the last few months he blame everything on the car he was driving until now.
I think co-driver change for Sami was necessary. Stepping up on highest level (whole season) is an investment which must be top all over.Quote:
Originally Posted by AE1WRC
Toyota do things in a proper way, no offence to Mälkönen at all. In a few years she might be enough experienced as well.
What do you mean by delayed? The season literally ended 3 days ago, also Neuville and Tänak are confirmed. Basically I think Fourmaux is also pretty much confirmed. In the series More than Machine he said "It doesn't mean that I am leaving, but Hyundai is offering me a full season, which is interesting. Toyota is [offering] a half season". Somewhere it was also said that he has no offer from M-Sport. And even if he has, I think he would regret not taking Hyundai's offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
They are also testing 2025 car. Neuville has done it and in the Estonian media Ott also mentioned that between the last two rallies there were extensive tests for 2025. Also they got the green light to use all the available jokers (2025 and 2026) for 2025 season. So basically they are all in.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/abite...le-as-justice/Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
If i were hyundai i would hire Neuville, tanak, fourmaux en some youngster, preferably gryazin in a 4th car.
Gryazin seems to be nice option but I am curious what will happen with Teemu Suninen and Emil Lindholm. Driving whole 2024 in crappy Hyundai Rally2 car led to world forgetting about them. Taking Tanak and Mikkelsen is one thing but it would not be great look for Hyundai's "development programme" if they will be rejected again in favour of Gryazin.
Lindholm had few outings in a Rally1 Hyundai (test). Don't know why, but maybe they are still consider him.
Then Teemu. How much chances shoud the team give him? He had plenty of them, I know Mikkelsen too. But then again. Teemu will not be better than Mikkelsen, Lappi...
The team indeed fucked up to put those two into the Rally2 car and more importantly didn't give much effort to proper develop the car and also both of them, but what can we do.
Sadly there are the only two drivers who have total respect from the team and those two are Neuville (now with the title even more strenghened "relationship") and Sordo. Both are in the team from the start.
There is one guy who is I guess the most loyal to the brand and should be given full WRC2 campaign and support - Paddon, but sadly they just like to brag with him and nothing else.
The dream is to Hyundai running 4 cars but since they started that operation, they never actualy do it. They rather spend all that money on luxury building on every rally.
i think Fourmaux will still be on the Puma in the upcoming monza rally masters, eh?
Contracts end are in December 31st. Usually old team allow test before that but not rallies.
I think it's stated for next year's regulations that those huge compounds of the teams (Hyundai. Toyota & previously Volkswagen) will make way to a more subdued service park as they'll have to use the sorrounding area as their working ground, that should cut costs and you won't see a huge fortress of Hyundai & Toyota every time you go into the service park.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Anything new about Solberg?
Or does the silence about him indicate something´s going on...?
It's a silly season and without facts, we can only speculate. The only "news" on that field is that it is highly likely he will not be driving a Toyota Rally1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
He was linked for Toyota, but he lost against Sami. So that door closed. He admited that he have strong option(s) for WRC2, so I guess still Skoda, Toyota maybe there. I don't think he will go in M-Sport direction.
Printsport Toyota....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
It seems Toyota is going to have five cars to accommodate Ogier part-time. If (not certain) they have five cars' worth of mechanics, truck drivers, catering etc set up for that, might they offer the fifth car to somebody when Ogier isn't driving?
If so, there's the question of who is available. I imagine Gryazin and Rossel might have contracts which lock them to Citroen. Solberg would be easier, especially if he's at Printsport. If Arai were a bit further along, they could give him a go for marketing.
Arai was beside Katsuta that time, when Toyota started a program for japanese drivers. Katsuta was better and got a seat. Toyota is developing 2nd tier japanese drivers already and if I'm correct 3rd and 4th. So it is covered for years already. That's why Katsuta is feeling more and more pressure. It could be his last season if he will not perform better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Isn't Gryazin a works driver by name only? His special livery in Japan had zero Citroen livery context. So I guess he could go and bring his budget anywhere he wants?Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
I think that those WRC2 programs are really signed only for a year. Except (if) HYPOTHETICALLY Citroen is aiming at top level and want to had those drivers when they will step up, so no one will steal them. But they don't have ''official'' works team, Citroen is operated by DG competition. I guess there is some sort of explanation why Citroen had this year official program in that category with those two drivers. All that we know is that they are looking at 2027 regulations and Lancia having now road to rally again. Althought DG competition did won team title this year and Gyrazin ended on podium at the end of the season. Quite great achievement.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
Abiteboul gives a clue...
https://rallyjournal.com/hyundais-bi...-a-major-clue/
unfortunately rallyjournal has joined dirtfish on the "post loads of articles saying nothing with some clikcbait titles". (imo)
They are even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Oh god, rallyjournal is far, far, worse for clickbait than DirtFish. There's an art to writing titles, and RJ is at the top of the nonsense so far, despite many of its articles actually being good.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Seems quite realistic if Toyota going on with their strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
First Pajari
Then Solberg.
Seems no other Rally2 drivers are near those two guys.
I think it is some AI tool that actually writes those articles - they repeat all the info that comes from Autosport/Dirtfish and similar, in the same, very cheasy, click bite way. Edits of those articles are similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobJones
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
One other guy I'd be interested in is Franceschi, who came second in ERC to Paddon. I think he did very well for his years and he's quick. But I think he's a year or two behind Solberg, and not ready for WRC1, so I'd be offering him a WRC2 drive to get him into the Toyota family.