[WRC] Rally Finland 2023

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Originally Posted by Tauri_J

This year could be the end of msport in Rally1. If Ott leaves who would drive for them? I mean a guy Who could be competetive…noone. Why would waste money to trundle around in 7-8 place in top class when you can pull out and put all resources into Rally2 and win there. No market for rally1 cars either.

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The "good" old days of payers. Munster by Serderidis and Loubet.

Jesus they dont know that its a starter motor….

No super rally for Ott: https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/st...75953511464960

Rock or compression hit the oil sump and they talk about oil pump possibly and starter definitely being broken.
By the words of Ott this is not an engine issue per se but damage done by this compression.

Imho Ott's very low setup is the root of this cause

DELFI VIDEO SOOME RALLILT | Ott Tänak katkestamisest: midagi tuli läbi auto põhjakaitsme, see ei sõida enam kuskile - Delfi Sport
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/1202...a-enam-kuskile

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Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira

Here too.

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Same here.

This is from Estonian forum but gold...

Rally journalist is interviewing Ott Tänak, asking why he joined the Ford rally team... Ott replies: "Short workdays and weekends are free."

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Originally Posted by meh

Is it only me or the all-live stream has quite many hick-ups?

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Very poor, also far too much heli shots and not enough stage side cameras for my liking, doesn't show the speed as effectively

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Originally Posted by cali

Rock or compression hit the oil sump and they talk about oil pump possibly and starter definitely being broken.
By the words of Ott this is not an engine issue per se but damage done by this compression.

Imho Ott's very low setup is the root of this cause

DELFI VIDEO SOOME RALLILT | Ott Tänak katkestamisest: midagi tuli läbi auto põhjakaitsme, see ei sõida enam kuskile - Delfi Sport
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/1202...a-enam-kuskile

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Could a rock have a such impact it pierces the underbody guard? kinda weird in my opinion

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Originally Posted by Rallyest

Could a rock have a such impact it pierces the underbody guard? kinda weird in my opinion

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First time? This was the case also with Tänak in Toyota.

So, estonian boys and girls, you can not throw the stone and angree comments towards Msport - engine was broken because of impact that can be both driver mistake and/or unlucky situation.

Tanak does not seem bothered, even looks relieved.

But Rovampera is a monster - are we entering another Loeb-ish, Ogier-ish time in the world championship? Total dominance!

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Originally Posted by cali

Rock or compression hit the oil sump and they talk about oil pump possibly and starter definitely being broken.
By the words of Ott this is not an engine issue per se but damage done by this compression.

Imho Ott's very low setup is the root of this cause

DELFI VIDEO SOOME RALLILT | Ott Tänak katkestamisest: midagi tuli läbi auto põhjakaitsme, see ei sõida enam kuskile - Delfi Sport
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/1202...a-enam-kuskile

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and probably it was one of the smoothest interview by Ott to Estonian media ;)

Rich Millener has free day, so he is co-commenting now in all-live.

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Originally Posted by flat_right

First time? This was the case also with Tänak in Toyota.

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yeah, but Sardignia and Finland are 2 different road surfaces

It was already seen on Harju stage that Ott was driving low car. Splitter was scraping through gravel.

Ott retired from SS3, we have already SS5, let's move on and enjoy the rally.

and now, some rain arrived, makes things more interesting...

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Originally Posted by Rallyest

Could a rock have a such impact it pierces the underbody guard? kinda weird in my opinion

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definitely...if a rock can lift a car to roll, detach a wheel, etc, it's fair enough that a rock hit above 100km/h can easily brake parts that aren't supposed to be hit. (a little crack is enough to leak oil and set fire to engine bay)

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Originally Posted by AndersX

So, estonian boys and girls, you can not throw the stone and angree comments towards Msport - engine was broken because of impact that can be both driver mistake and/or unlucky situation.

Tanak does not seem bothered, even looks relieved.

But Rovampera is a monster - are we entering another Loeb-ish, Ogier-ish time in the world championship? Total dominance!

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Agreed. I have mentioned many times here before that Ott likes to set up the car to be lower and this usually causes issues to the suspension and a few times to the sump guard

I believe other hit this rock as well but the impact wasn't such bad as the compression couldn't reach to mecahnical parts.

But as someone mentioned here, let's move on...

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Originally Posted by seb_sh

No super rally for Ott: https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/st...75953511464960

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Originally Posted by Rallyest

yeah, but Sardignia and Finland are 2 different road surfaces

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In Sardegna he landed quite heavily on nose.
In Portugal there was a massive rock in the middle of corner
In Wales it was also some low bad landing..?

Starting to pour really hard for Neuville

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Originally Posted by Rallyest

Could a rock have a such impact it pierces the underbody guard? kinda weird in my opinion

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A bedrock….very large rock or a boulder embedded in surface

Lappi high-speed off.

.. and stream went to "rescue mode", crew ok.

Lappi quite heavy crash

that was a massive crash for Lappi :o

Lappi off

Another car out oh dear

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Originally Posted by cali

Agreed. I have mentioned many times here before that Ott likes to set up the car to be lower and this usually causes issues to the suspension and a few times to the sump guard

I believe other hit this rock as well but the impact wasn't such bad as the compression couldn't reach to mecahnical parts.

But as someone mentioned here, let's move on...

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kudos to you! i think we need a bit more balanced comment toward m-sport about this morning...

OUCH LAPPI...

This is not good...sideways directly to trees :/

oh no Lappi

I was just in the middle of writing a sentence that i hope Lappi can leave Neuville behind

How on earth Ott managed to win with this car last year

So Latvala P6, half-way to the podium ;)

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Originally Posted by Tauri_J

Another car out oh dear

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Yes, the first WRC2 car is already 7th overall...

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

How on earth Ott managed to win with this car last year

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not hitting rocks? :D

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Originally Posted by wyler

not hitting rocks? :D

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I mean it does make his Last year Finland win even more very impressive, Neuville is strugglling and is nowhere near Kalle and Evans , Lappi sayd he cant put out more and right after that he crashes out.

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Originally Posted by Dontcut

It was already seen on Harju stage that Ott was driving low car. Splitter was scraping through gravel.

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Every car is running low on finland

Hard to say how much it was the car, Ott or just bad luck. In any case with 3 cars out that's a third of the Rally1 cars, it's a bit sad. And just as I was writing Suninen was almost in the ditch :o

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Originally Posted by Rallyest

I mean it does make his Last year Finland win even more very impressive, Neuville is strugglling and is nowhere near Kalle and Evans , Lappi sayd he cant put out more and right after that he crashes out.

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definitely.
(my comment was just a pun!)

Hope Jari gets a podium somehow

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

How on earth Ott managed to win with this car last year

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Because he’s Ott Tänak

If ott's engine will not be repairable, it means that he will get another 5 minutes penalty to greece? Because you can't change more than 2 engines if I'am right..