Puma seemed somehow understeery compared to other cars..
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Puma seemed somehow understeery compared to other cars..
Premature conclusions
Hyundai the fastest car and Loubet faster than Tänak :D
It seemed the same for me. Just looking from onboard, Ott felt much slower than Kalle but the time wasn't that bad considering it s a new car, Monte and tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrLill
Everybody heading to service. Seems we won’t get the second passes any time soon
So if you haven´t made your Pickems, now´s the time!
Closing time is 20.00 CET tonight.
Rallirinki / Teemu
@HartusvuoriWRC
Kalle inspecting his tyres after the first shakedown run. #WRC #RallyMonteCarlo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm0sG9VX...jpg&name=large
Dirtfish live center, nothing spectalucar there at the moment https://dirtfish.com/archive/2023-mo...day-live-text/
Ott and Thierry moving for second pass
Ott got a bit closer to Thierry on the second pass.
but Thierry even faster than first pass, 1 sec faster than Ott on second passQuote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Otts shakedown not too promising
Sordo and Ogier fastest till now.2 sec faster from their first pass
i wouldnt worry much, he never pushes max. on shakedowns and he was dead slow also on the same shakedown last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Kras
Sordo has impressed me so far
Agreed, he rarely pushes hard on shakedown so nothing to see here.
Yes, that's true. I'm just dying to see how the cars stack up. The evening can't come soon enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Kalle fastest,already 5 sec down from fastest time from previous year shake.
Tänak heading for 3rd run, nobody follows at the moment
i wonder how many he will do today
It's just a shakedown, relax guys. In the evening it gets worse 😀
Is there a stream anywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
He need all the seat time he can get.
Still, I don't have any high expectations for this rally.
Forget it guys, Ott is not fastest on the first run of the first shakedown, season over he has no chance!
:P
Yup, it's overQuote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
1.46.1 on third run for Tänak
He needs to beat the others by 5 sec then maybe, just maybe we're satisfied hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
and Thierry beats Kalle
1.45.0 the new benchmark
haha, not for me. he is much closer to the TOP times this year than last year, all good so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
if anyone is interested then here are last years times from SD https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/7...te-carlo-2022/
Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I know a lot of sarcastic notes here about Tänak's pace, but EstWRC is right, lot closer than last year, and also, you can see an over 1 sec improvement on all shakedown runs, which on a 2.29km test is alot. Also pointed out earlier, that Tänak rarely goes for top 1-2-3 times on shakedown.
So key point in the times is the development of times and time improvement between runs
Though I agree that Tänak rarely shows his hand on SD, then I also think it is pointless to compare times from last year because we have to remember what was the situation in Hyundai back then and how "ready" their car was.
But I'm optimistic - with every run, here is some improvement and I think that he is getting more and more familiar with the car.
I think its pretty optimistic by everybody to expect Tänak to attack from the first stage, more likely we will see the faster times on saturday. Everyone forgets that he has to start from 0. Beginning with setup, Pumas aerodynamics compared to Hyundai and everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Edit: By faster times i mean 1-2-3 place stage times, i think realisticly if he is close to 3rd and 4th place by the end of tomorrow then all is good
Edit again: but i hope Tänak proves me wrong.
That understeer was present on the test vids as well, nothing new.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrLill
They're only allowed 3 shakedown runs this year right?
Shakedown time improvement from first to third runs:
1. Lappi - 5.8sec
2. Evans 4.4
3. Ogier 3.2
4. Rovanpera 2.7
5. Loubet 2.4
5. Tanak 2.4
7. Sordo 2.1
8. Neuville 1.5
One can make whatever conclusions they want from these times, but it's emerging that the gaps won't be that wide
Are all cars running same tyres on SD or tyre strategy games start there?
Probably been somewhere in this thread but when are WRC 2 doing their shakedown?
Lappi being 2 seconds slower than Neuville is also not very promising.
Only P1 drivers are on the shakedown. Same as last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
OK thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by rage82
Shakedown vid https://youtu.be/s9ohBEoq2bI
The tricky to identify Toyotas have their number clearly on the rear which helps...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmxPNBdW...jpg&name=large
only in France, they replace the license plates with numbers. Same has been for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC