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SS15 very similar, except they had fixed cameras and actually showed images from those. For interviews:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
WRC2 Tidemand interview
WRC2 Kopecky nothing (had a puncture)
WRC3 Mikkelsen nothing
WRC3 Solberg nothing
WRC3 Lindholm interview (he was very surprised they want him to talk English)
WRC2 Fourmaux interview
Here is how many times WRC3 top 3 and Lindholm got interview during 3 days on a track with crew at stopline and not having to go anywhere:
Huttunen 1 (PS end, he was put in front of WRCs), Solberg 1, Mikkelsen 0, Lindholm 2
First 3 WRC3 crews ended 6-8 and ahead of all WRC2.
WRC2 get "priority" running order (which is a disadvantage on gravel as Østberg says), one of the reasons is that they get shown more on TV.... but when there is time for WRC3s why "deliberately" skip them when they are running high in overall?
On top of that in Monza you got the funny situation after many stages where they "end" the allive feed with showing overall standings with WRC2 crews jumping 3-4 places in stage.
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Originally Posted by mknight
He, Emil was joking with Molly. (who lives in Norway, speaks also swedish)
They ask on LIVE 1st in english and after that "with your own language"
Emil is swedish speaking finn, so finnish is his 2nd language.
I bet they did those stage end interviews many times for press, that SS15 was for LIVE, usually it wasn´t.
Come on.. they can change a clutch or gearbox in 30mins, how difficult can it be to move a camera?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
And don’t entry fees go to the FIA and not the promoter?
There must be some better solutions that can be arrived at instead of just thinking of excuses all the time.
Not just a camera, it's three cameras with the transmitter, and after installing they likely need to do a test to see that the camera angles are correct and the transmitter is working. I don't know how much time it takes, but like I said there should be a time slot for this operation that wouldn't be away from the normal service. Normally the cameras are installed and removed outside the rally schedule. Would the scrutineers need to also check that the cameras are installed safe?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Well, they are all connected. FIA has a deal with the WRC Promoter.Quote:
And don’t entry fees go to the FIA and not the promoter?
You can call it an excuse, I call it understanding the reality. Life is happier when you don't complain about everything :)Quote:
There must be some better solutions that can be arrived at instead of just thinking of excuses all the time.
It's a bigger problem that WRC2 and WRC3 are separated while the performances are so equal. And like I've said before, if all the drivers would be in the same series, it would be tricky to decide in advance whose car gets the camera (assuming it cannot be moved to another car during the rally).
A simple solution, starting order and there's plenty of time between the legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Simplest solution would be to run all Rally2/R5 in WRC2 and Rally3 cars in WRC3.
Also to make a WRC4 championship, for Rally4 and 5 cars, where JWRC is incorporeted, but also gets JWRC points according to internal classification.
JWRC will be with Rally4 cars in future?
In 20 they used the R2t-19, but i will be very surprized if those cup cars are not upgraded with Rally4 kit for 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
But JWRC will still run by M-Sport Poland with Fieastas.
But we need a 2wd championship, and the the JWRC crews can fight for 2 championships. If others would like to use another brand, where they get a better deal, they should have a title to fight for!
Is this another DirtFish article with a silly mistake on the year? It reads like it could be 22, instead of 21. But the headline says different
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/adela...t-wrc-in-2021/
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Cars allready upgraded to Rally4. I was talking about Rally3 be the next ones.
I got a confirmation from someone who knows this stuff, that installing the camera requires preparation for the car and thus is not possible to do mid-event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Ypres instead of Safari?
https://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/...WLyTs.facebook
Bottas with i20 Coupe WRC of 2C Competition in Arctic?
https://dirtfish.com/rally/bottas-se...ial-wrc-debut/
Of course every change requires preparation, but what's the actual time cost for fitting two cameras inside the car?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Rumour from Xlerate @xlerateDOTnet
No Rally GB in 2021. Latest info that we are hearing is that even N.Ireland has been unable to gain Government approval for round of the 2021 WRC in August. It is pos that Monza may be considered as the replacement.
As late as 1,5 year ago people like this would go to MSport. Now they go to Hyundai. Is it only because of the performance/results shown lately? Or is it due to a change in Hyundai approach to "customers"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Sure performance would matter for people like Paddon or Loubet but for Bottas I think it might be about the customer approach too.
Anyway WRC customers going to Hyundai and R5 customers going "anywhere exept Fiesta" (Fabia, Polo, C3, I20....) it does certainly not look good for MSport.
I don't think many people are surprised if this is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Three cameras and the transmitter for All Live. It's obviously simpler to just slap on a camera and watch the footage from the memory card after the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Let's say it takes 30 minutes to install the camera. Where would this time be taken from? The night service? "Sorry, you can't change your gearbox, you need to use the service time to install the camera". Or would someone be allowed to do this while the car is in parc ferme? What if the crew retires along a stage and the camera is there until midnight? In any case, the camera installation would have be done by the WRC+ crew but team members and scrutineers would have to be present as well, with possibly a some sort of "shakedown" for the camera to ensure the camera angles are right and the transmitter works. All this would for sure need a change for the regulations to break parc ferme, even if it would be possible without the technical limitations.
That must mean that "Tuohino WRC" is already taken ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
or he just wants to try a new car every time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
https://dirtfish.com/rally/2021-brit...ndar-revealed/
Circuit of Ireland is a round of BRC in April so I doubt it will be a WRC round in August
The Circuit of Ireland is organised by a Northern Ireland club, Ulster Automobile Club. The WRC round 'Rally UK' Northern Ireland would be organised by Motorsport UK, like Rally GB. So not mutually exclusive. Personally I'll be surprised if either of them happen, CoI due to Covid restrictions, Rally UK NI due to budget/Covid uncertainty. We'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I don't think Ireland will ever be the future for Rally GB. Maybe they'll host for the odd year, but we need the forests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Monza being held around august (Rally GBs current calendar slot) would be boring. It was the weather that made the event work.
Would have to be stages in the mountains on every day, with maybe only one circuit stage on each day to make it acceptable.
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Rumour of Oliver Solberg in Hyundai at WRC2 2021
https://www.rallyeslalom.com/wrc2-ol...vCLW9Umkka_4MY
Did not see that one coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
If true, lets see what Mikkelsen will do.
Will be 2021 THE year to Neuville?
Well I guess at this point it's just a speculation, but surely it has its merits and might happen.
Solberg is in a position where he doesn't necessarily have to pay (trough own sponsors) for most of his drives. Which might be the case if Skoda removes most factory support next year.
Also for 2022 he will definitely want to get some WRC drives.
MSport probably still has the weakest Rally2 car and is certainly not in position to fund much (though Solberg winning with Fiesta would certainly boost sales) or guarantee anything for 2022.
Toyota already has Rovanpera (and Katsuta) so they might not be interested in a new young driver just yet and they would have to get Rally2 from someone - better to let him drive with Skoda like with Kalle.
Hyundai has all the motivation and future prospect for 2022, even though Huttunen is kind of just ahead of Solberg there atm.
That said if Solberg is winning in Rally2 in 2021 it shouldn't be hard to get a drive in 2022 anyway no matter who he drove for in 2021. In that case it's most important to drive a fast (to win) and above all reliable ( to learn rallies) car in 2021. Skoda is the obvious choice for that.
FIA World Rally Championship
Amendments to the FIA WRC Sporting Regulations include the awarding of additional Power Stage points to Manufacturers, to be scored by the two best-placed drivers nominated by a team and finishing in the top five of the final stage, with the aim to add an additional dimension to the Manufacturers’ battle.
Following Pirelli’s implementation as a new single supplier in 2021, nine additional test days have been allocated to each WRC manufacturer to adapt to the new tyres to be used through the 2021 season.
A number of changes have been adopted to clarify the requirements for the WRC2 class. Participating teams in the category now have to register no later than the closing date of the fifth round of the 2021 season. To score points, a team must enter two cars in a maximum of seven rallies, including a minimum of one round outside of Europe.
WRC2 Drivers and Teams will be required to nominate to score points as they enter an event and as a result, registered Drivers can enter additional rallies as Priority 2 without scoring points. In regards to points scoring, the highest number of points from six of the seven nominated rallies will count.
Owing to the success of the Power Stage points for the WRC, the same format will now be extended to the WRC2 and WRC3 categories.
In WRC3, with the view to restore pre-COVID regulations, the number of rallies counting for the championship has been reinstated from five to seven, with the best five rounds counting for the championship points. Specific requirements have also been added to restrict the class entry to aspiring drivers developing their skills.
To ensure the value of the WRC championship, at least half of the events scheduled on the initial calendar will have to be held for titles to be awarded. In the support championships, the FIA will have the possibility to adjust the minimum number of participations and number of events taken into account, should the number of qualifying events be less than scheduled initially.
The number of counting rounds for the Junior WRC Championship has been returned to five from four set in this year’s regulations due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Now that's an interesting rule. Sweden's already cancelled, rumors already of Safari and UK not making it. All three could still get replacements well ahead of schedule, but they wouldn't be rounds of the initial calendar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I like Power Stage points for Manus, so that we avoid the often repeated situations where drivers are told to "just secure points" and don't push in PS. (looking at Adamo here). This in turn degrades the PS concept a bit.
It would be nice if there also was a requirement to finish within top 5 overall to get the manu points and not only within manu-nominated drivers.
This requirement actually looks like it comes from manufacturers both from sporting and cost side.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
They plan their development and development tests based on the number of rallies of different types in the season. When you suddenly change the ratio og different events a lot it might hurt you.
For example the post Mexico 2020 calendar of rallies driven kind of favored Hyundai (and would have even more with Ypres - something Ogier even commented on).
Could be, but also could be that there's less than 6 of the initial rallies run this year, with replacements brought in.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Hmm, I thought the manufacturer points for the power stage were only awarded within the top 5 of the final stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Example:
Power stage results
1. Toyota
2. Toyota
3. Toyota
4. Hyundai
5. Hyundai
6. M-Sport
7. M-Sport
Power stage manufacturer points
5 Toyota
4 Toyota
3 Hyundai
2 Hyundai
M-Sport gets 0 because they're outside top 5.
I think the idea there was that if you are well out of top5 (which i would make top10), say because you are running through super-rally, then you cannot score - You can only prevent others from scoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
it says top 5 of last stage, should be like this!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
that new PS rule is very welcomed.
especially for lower categories.
It could also be half the 'number' of events on the initial calendar.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
So in the case of 2021: six.
that's what it probably means, but says a bit differentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
just likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
2020
2019
2018
2017
were
yeah, but in 2020 we had covid. anything can happen now on! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
You don't get it. THE year refers to the last one, the year of all or nothing. I don't see Hyundai renew if he didn't win.