Strong team?hmmmmmm
You need stong drivers to achieve that.So no.
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Strong team?hmmmmmm
You need stong drivers to achieve that.So no.
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Tanak, Tidemand, Suninen would be fun :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
Tänak Camilli and Suninen
Not unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
indeed, Camilli has a contract. That would actually be a decent lineup. That means Ostberg to Toyota to kill his career completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Yep, it makes sense to have Ford back in WRC, but there are some contradictory signals: Wilson wasn’t able to pick a top driver and said he would get a paying driver for the 3rd car.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnlyRally
Btw, Mk 7 Fiesta can be revealed at Detroit auto show or in a European press presentation until mid January. It’s hard to believe we’ll get WRC version competing before seeing the road car.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...ee-door-option
Just to keep the ford rumour living :) doesn't have to mean anything but posting it anyways ;)
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They are keeping the rights to the site name.It may mean a lot,it may mean nothing.
Hyundai launch revealed for Dec 1st at Monza Rally Show - http://www.autosport.com/news/report...i-2017-wrc-car
They will also have a 2016 i20 in the rally with a TBC driver.
It ever happened in 2014. Lada ran the WTCC car before the road car ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Are the rules same? I don't know the rules for 2017 cars but according to the current S2000/WRC rules it is not possible unless an exception from FIA is granted and agreed by all competitors.
Are you guys blind? Clearly M-Sport have the 2017 Fiesta shaped car. Even if you look at camouflaged road going test cars on auto websites the front and rears are the shame as the new WRCar being tested!
A source close to M-Sport said: "Of course Ott's back in the team next season.
"There's been a lot of nonsense about Ott going to Toyota or another place, but that's not going to happen.
"Have you seen how much testing Ott is doing with the new car? Malcolm wouldn't have him in that car for so long if he wasn't going to be using him next season.
"Ott will be back and he'll be winning with us next season."
Current M-Sport driver Mads Ostberg is also optimistic of remaining in the WRC for most 2017 rounds.
His father Morten told Autosport: "We actually have three options, but we have discounted one of those already.
"I can't tell you details about the offers, but what I can tell you right now is that Mads will be back in the championship again next year."
One possibility for Ostberg would be a return to running as a private team under the Adapta name, most likely within the M-Sport umbrella.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...medium=twitter
Camilli / Tanak / Suninen seems like an interesting lineup for MSport, probably the best they can achieve given that they have no money and Camilli is locked in.
Ostberg to Toyota therefore makes sense, at least we know he can score points next to his two teammates who are unknown quantities.
I hope DMAck will continue and that Evans gets the drive, he deserves something after his performance this year.
The problem is not that it would not exist but that the rules (2016 ones) state that 20 thousand cars have to be produced at the homologation date. Maybe the 2017 rules are different.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
But Dmack will not have the 2017 car (at least not for the forst halv of the season).Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
M-Sport will get dispensation if they want. Ford also got the GT pushed through in WEC, won Le Mans this year and that's not built yet.
For Ostberg to have THREE options for WRC next year in the current climate is a bit of a mystery. I think we'll see him in a private Fiesta in that third seat. Ott to M-Sport works team is barely even a secret any more. He's basically their lead test driver at the moment.
What I'm slightly concerned about is whether we'll even see a Dmack WRC presence next year. I've seen reports on another forum they are hemorrhaging money. Not sure if it's true, but it would hardly be a surprise. I doubt Malcolm will want them on his works cars next year either even though they have a successful relationship going. I hope they can pull something together as it's a great opportunity for a driver as Ott has shown this year.
OnlyRally - where have you read anything about Dmack in 2017?
Finally seen the Motorsport News stories this week. Not much news really. Elfyn missing GB was the top story.
On the Ostberg thing - slightly more detail from Morten - hinting that Mads may not be able to do all the rounds next year as one option could be a driver share in whatever team he is talking about.
"Mads is working very hard on his tarmac driving now and it's working, but maybe there could be some driver changes in the team on some of those [asphalt] rallies, but he will be there on the gravel and and we really hope Monte Carlo where he has a good record."
So for me that makes things even more of a mystery. Toyota we know won't have a third car on the Monte. And if Adapta were running (via M-Sport) then it would be hard to believe they'd force out Mads for someone else.
I am intrigued...
They will if they can pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnlyRally
M-Sport have never actually said they couldn't have a few cars ready...
Maybe Makinen is looking for part-time drivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
For example, Hanninen is the only full-time driver as he made the testing
And then, 3 part-time drivers such as Lappi, Ostberg and Evans (with Evans replacing Ostberg in asphalt rallyes and occasionaly Lappi).
It would quite similar to the strategy of Hyundai in their first season.
In addition to that, as Corsica is quite early this season, it would give Ostberg an easier road position in Gravel rallyes
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
That's highly unlikely. Lappi will get full season, mark my words for it. The guy who broke the story (of Hänninen and Lappi) on Finnish broadcasting company (YLE) knows his stuff. It was later also reported on another Finnish media that sources with knowledge of the situation have confirmed Lappi as being the other full season driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Regarding the drivers, Tommi has said it many times, that he wants to make "investments for the future". Lappi fits that more than well and Hänninen is the understandable exception to the rule being the main test driver in 2016 and sort of a team player for 2017. Östberg somehow doesn't fit that scenario - I'd much rather sign Evans than Östberg if I was Tommi. It's hard to see Östberg getting any better than what he's already shown. I have a feeling (for what's it worth :)) that the third driver will be someone outside the spectulation we've seen.
For me too, Evans is a choice that Ostberg as he has only two years in a works team so probably more potential of improvementQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
However, i don't understand why Lappi has not been confirmed yet (except if it is just to be sympathetic with Skoda as Lappi is still in the WRC2 championship race).
This seems extremely unlikely (the winning part).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Just watch the 2016 season dude. What more needs explaining to you? The tyres are barely competitive. No point building a pukka 2017 WRC car and then tying one arm behind your back.Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
And they're Finnish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I would say that Lappi is not getting full season deal.
M-Sport gave full season to Camilli, who at the time had 0 starts with WRC, was it right decision ?
Part season deal for Lappi :)
Camilli had only ever had 10 rallies in his career in a 4WD car before moving to Ford. I think that was part of the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Lappi is ready. Or he certainly should be. Whether he'll get that full season or not I have genuinely no idea.
Yes, Lappi is much more qualified than Camilli. He is also capable on all surfaces.
Ostberg third car for loose surfaces and Evans or someone else for tarmac seems like a plan.
Today, in Poland there is unofficial info that Rally Polaland will be secured for next year. New round in Turkey, no rally China either. Also there're talks about participation Kubica in his home round and maybe in few others.
The latter, is IMO not likely to happen even if I'm Polish.
Who knows, maybe that’s the key for Ostberg mystery: divided seat with Kubica in MSport 3rd car…Quote:
Originally Posted by maciotacio
Staying on guessing mode:
Toyota - Evans, Haninnen, Lappi; MSport – Tanak, Camilli, Ostberg/Kubica; DMack – Suninen
On a more serious note: control tires are still an option from 2018; can FIA’s final decision come out on December world council or just during '17?
The 3-year deal with Michelin would kill the control tyre for the next three years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
The control tyre is nonsense anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
WRC drivers and teams against Turkey's potential return to calendar
Plans for Turkey's return to the World Rally Championship in 2017 have met opposition from leading drivers and teams.
A delegation of Turkish officials visited last week's Rally Catalunya in an effort to convince the service park the event should rejoin the schedule for the first time since 2010.
Turkey, China and Poland are listed by the FIA as potential 2017 rounds, with either one or two of the trio set to get the nod.
But WRC champion Sebastien Ogier is among those arguing that security concerns amid recent terrorism and the political instability around an attempted coup earlier this year should keep it off the calendar.
"Right now with the political situation in Turkey, I would not want to go there and I don't think it would be clever to go there," Ogier said.
"But hopefully - and more for the Turkish people - this situation will change and it can develop in a better way."
Citroen team boss Yves Matton echoed those sentiments.
"Turkey could be an interesting rally for the calendar, but the timing is not good," he said.
"We don't know if, in one year, the security will be good for us to go there.
"It's maybe a rally more for 2018 than for 2017."
WRC promoter's Oliver Ciesla defended Turkey's provisional place on the calendar.
"I was there recently and the tourist season was in full flow, there was no feeling anything was wrong," he argued.
"There are major events happening in Turkey, such as the UEFA Champions' League and a major basketball event is going to Istanbul.
"We are not talking about going there tomorrow, we are talking about going there in 12 months."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-turkey-return
Rally Poland will be in WRC in 2017.
With Kubica it's typical rumor, it will not happen.
All is marketing. Quite nice, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Is it the new Citroen WTCC car?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
And I agree with you, I don't like it either.