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If they use longer gears i suspect we could see even much higher average speeds than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Those roads would only make sense in something like dakar, where there is no reconnaissance en navigations plays a big part. Just because it would be unique doesn't mean its usefull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I wouldn't say this for any other 'new' rally really, but given how relatively unique the Safari will be if it does indeed return for 2020, would there not be a reasonably substantial benefit to any of the WRC guys in taking part in the 2019 candidate event? Even if it were only in an R5?
Does a return to Africa have to be a 'Safari-style' event anyway ?
Rally Chile was new but its roads and itinerary were comparable with many current events. Chile is even a location for the modern Dakar but no-one said its WRC event should use such areas...
Was a location for Dakar last time in 2015. And the closest point they got to the current rally location is roughly 1300kms... So what's the point of what you are saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Jari Huttunen will do two Finnish Championship events in an i20 Coupe WRC. The organizers of Pohjanmaa-ralli, held in mid June, confirmed the team is coming. The first start will be this weekend in Riihimäki-ralli.
Exactly that - WRC Chile wasnt using any of it's previous Dakar route, type of 'roads' or big distances.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
So why does a WRC rally in Kenya have to be like the old Safari ie. extra long and tough ?
A 'normal' gravel rally held there would still be good as it would put WRC back on that continent.
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Chile has a long tradition of normal rallying on the roads we saw a week ago. Why should they have suddenly used a Dakar element? Kenya has similarly arranged rallies on the roads similar to the candidate event for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Besides, I don’t think Kenya has much road types to choose from.
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I didnt say Chile should change and use Dakar elements, exactly the opposite. I used that as an example of why a Kenya WRC event doesnt need to be like the old Safari...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Honestly, without seeing the timings of the stages it looks like a sensible route...makes sense to go back to Brenig on the final day because there is way more parking than Gwydir and Elsi.
Good that there will be a night stage on Friday again.
Bit nostalgic going back to Oulton Park, last time I remember going there was for the rally was 1987. Should be better than TIR Prince tho...
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Tuominen's tweet is about him being "cleared for atleast one more international motorsport competition".
Still has no logic to it. Safari was once a part of WRC, Chile Dakar roads were not (not sure of Codasur in early 80’s).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I give up, some people will argue with Our Lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I was last at Oulton Park for the RAC Rally in 1993 to see McRae & Burns.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
If I remember right it was torrential rain there in 1992 and a nightmare to get out of the circuit when the stage finished.
It was quite a decent for a spectator stage and far better than the usual 'street-stages'.
Rally GB itinerary: https://d2cx26qpfwuhvu.cloudfront.ne...-Route-1.2.pdf
True. The RAC ”Mickey mouse” stages seem pretty neat when compared to today’s super specials. But who knows, they could still ”spice” Oulton up with donuts and jump ramps...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I recall ‘92 being properly wet....I think we went to Weston Park & Clumber Park on day 1 if I remember right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Since he wasn't nominated last year it would also fall under the additional testing days rule:Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I don't think Toyota lacks testing days though.Quote:
66.4.4 For Manufacturers, 7 additional test days may be allocated to each team in addition to Art. 66.4.2.
These additional days will only be applicable to guest drivers who have not been nominated to score points
up to the requested testing date in the Manufacturers Championship in the previous or current year.
They talk about 4th car. The only really good reason for me would be testing for Turkey (where they struggled last year) during an actual rally.
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It would most certainly be a 4th car. Tommi sure ain't dropping anyone he's picked himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I edited the post after I read the tweet comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
4th car with the purpose for testing for Turkey makes most sense.
Don't give them ideas......Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Juho will drive Yaris in Sardinia.
https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1131424759177203713
There we go. Hänninen/Tuominen in a Yaris WRC entered by Tommi Mäkinen Racing.
That's great news!!!
Took him half a year to get upto speed in 2017, hopefully he can be on the pace in Sardinia but I don't have big expectations. One of my favourite drivers, shame he never realised his full potential in the WRC.
great and interesting news, especially the part "to stay race-sharp"
Full season for Hänninen in 2020 as a 3rd car...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Juho really started to get his groove by the second half of the season. TGR says he's possibly the best test driver they've had so it says a lot about his style. I think of him as the Finnish Meeke. He just needs to work things out.. the speed and talent is there. Happy to see him back. I heard about him driving earlier this year ...Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I still think it’s mostly for testing purposes. And to recheck his pace levelQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
If he does well in Sardinia would Finland be a possibility? If he's only in for one event I don't get why they'd do Sardinia over his home event.
This could also be Makinen perhaps hedging his bets and maybe thinking about getting Juho upto speed for a full campaign in 2020 - taking over from Jari? If Latvala's performances/luck don't improve, Juho might even be needed to help out in the second half of this season.
So toyota already understands a 4th car might help tanak get the title. Now lets wait untill hyundai realises the same thing and also starts using 4 cars.
https://www.rallit.fi/tommi-makinen-...uussa-on-kyse/
In here Mäkinen says it’s just for testing. But yeah, it’s also Mäkinen saying.
I don't think he will aim to "get up to speed", if he retires there wont be much testing done.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
But if it's normal Sardinia with heavy cleaning he could be top 5 ish after Friday since he starts last.
EDIT: Toyota doesn't need any more testing in Finland with the "unlimited" testing they have there atm.
They did that exactly a year ago in Portugal... and showed how problematic it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
The two nominated drivers dropped (Paddon crashed out, Mikkelsen got first powersteering and after engine issue), and Sordo who wasn't nominated didn't bring any points.
That said, in heavy cleaning rallies it might sometimes help for driver points but imo it's better to use the money on other things... unless you can combine it with testing... bringing us back to Toyota.
What was the problematic part?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Even though he finished 4th, running the 4th car gave them 0 manu points and 0 driver points taken off their rivals. So high? cost with no benefit at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Googol
and because that happened once,it will be such for ever?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
And the problem? I'm pretty sure they knrw that he won't score team points when they put him in the start list.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight