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10th January 2018, 15:24
pantealex

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Kalle will do FRC event in Mikkeli, a week after Rally Sweden.

Rallirinki calendar says that Sweden and Mikkeli are same time :(
10th January 2018, 21:14
Co-driven

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Originally Posted by Simmi

So beyond the Skoda armada not too many entries confirmed so far. But certainly some quality.

Assumed full season:
Tidemand
Kopecky
Rovanpera
Veiby
Nordgren
Huttunen
Lefebvre
Bulacia
Solans?

Partial season:
Arai
Katsuta
Abbring
Suninen
Saba

I think Pedro Heller from Chile will also contest the WRC2 again.
11th January 2018, 00:28
semurg

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Originally Posted by Simmi

So beyond the Skoda armada not too many entries confirmed so far. But certainly some quality.

Assumed full season:
Tidemand
Kopecky
Rovanpera
Veiby
Nordgren
Huttunen
Lefebvre
Bulacia
Solans?

Partial season:
Arai
Katsuta
Abbring
Suninen
Saba

Orhan Avcioglu from TOKSPORT WRT will entry for 5-6 race with FabiaR5
11th January 2018, 21:19
mousti

Pieniazek will do 7 events with Printsport Fabia.

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12th January 2018, 07:30
pantealex

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Originally Posted by mousti

Pieniazek will do 7 events with Printsport Fabia.

Starting from Sweden.
12th January 2018, 09:56
Sub_Skoda

5 rallies for Tamara Molinaro : https://www.lemagsportauto.com/tamar...e-wrc-2/29103/
12th January 2018, 10:12
RS

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Originally Posted by Sub_Skoda

5 rallies for Tamara Molinaro : https://www.lemagsportauto.com/tamar...e-wrc-2/29103/

I don’t know whether she has real potential or not, but this progression seems too quick to me.
12th January 2018, 10:18
Watson

It would be wonderful for the sport if she could reach the WRC. Best of luck to her.
12th January 2018, 10:52
Simmi

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Originally Posted by RS

I don’t know whether she has real potential or not, but this progression seems too quick to me.

This was also my first thought. But clearly she has good backing behind her.
12th January 2018, 11:59
PLuto

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Originally Posted by RS

I don’t know whether she has real potential or not, but this progression seems too quick to me.

For me it is quite crazy step...
12th January 2018, 14:02
RS

Suninen confirmed in R5 for Monte and Deutschland, so no full WRC2 campaign unless he adds rounds at a later date.
12th January 2018, 14:30
Watson

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Originally Posted by RS

Suninen confirmed in R5 for Monte and Deutschland, so no full WRC2 campaign unless he adds rounds at a later date.

I have a feeling they will reward him with more WRC events in case he does well and otherwise fill his calendar with more R5 time.
12th January 2018, 15:24
steve.mandzij

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Originally Posted by PLuto

For me it is quite crazy step...

Maybe she should have taken to JWRC first, but she's progressing naturally from R2 to R5. I don't get why people think it's too quick.

Does anybody know anything about Solans?
12th January 2018, 15:27
RS

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

Maybe she should have taken to JWRC first, but she's progressing naturally from R2 to R5. I don't get why people think it's too quick.

Because she hasn't mastered R2 yet..
12th January 2018, 16:02
steve.mandzij

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Originally Posted by RS

Because she hasn't mastered R2 yet..

That's what happens when you make a ladies' cup

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12th January 2018, 16:11
Simmi

Full WRC2 programme for Greensmith with M-Sport. Starts in Mexico but no other rounds announced yet.

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-new...a-r5-and-wrc-2
12th January 2018, 17:00
Myrvold

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Originally Posted by RS

I don’t know whether she has real potential or not, but this progression seems too quick to me.

It would probably help if she was able to get a consistent co-driver as well. 6 different in 20 events cannot be helpful.
12th January 2018, 18:44
RS

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

That's what happens when you make a ladies' cup

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??

She drives R2 so she was also eligible for JERC U27.
12th January 2018, 20:44
steve.mandzij

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Originally Posted by RS

??

She drives R2 so she was also eligible for JERC U27.

Going from R2 to R5 for a JWRC/JERC winner is seen as natural progression, but since Tamara won the ladies cup she's seen as not ready yet to make the jump. My point is that I reckon she'd be seen as much more ready to jump to R5 if she'd won a mixed gender championship.

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12th January 2018, 21:20
RS

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

Going from R2 to R5 for a JWRC/JERC winner is seen as natural progression, but since Tamara won the ladies cup she's seen as not ready yet to make the jump. My point is that I reckon she'd be seen as much more ready to jump to R5 if she'd won a mixed gender championship.

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Absolutely, but she didn’t. Participating in the ladies cup didn’t preclude her from the mixed gender category.
12th January 2018, 21:25
TWRC

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

Going from R2 to R5 for a JWRC/JERC winner is seen as natural progression, but since Tamara won the ladies cup she's seen as not ready yet to make the jump. My point is that I reckon she'd be seen as much more ready to jump to R5 if she'd won a mixed gender championship.

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For me personally, that has nothing to do with it.
I have seen her drive on tarmac and gravel as well, and I don't think she's ready. Another 2 years and lots of rallies with R2 car and a good, consistent codriver would be much better in my opinion. But I might be wrong, time will tell.
13th January 2018, 14:24
BigWorm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTWo75uXUAArqFA.jpg

Gus Greensmith's livery for the season.
13th January 2018, 15:17
Tarmop

So Suninen is now a RB athlete, hence the livery.
13th January 2018, 15:24
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Watson

It would be wonderful for the sport if she could reach the WRC. Best of luck to her.

why it would be wonderful ?
13th January 2018, 15:48
Watson

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

why it would be wonderful ?

1 She's female so she'd attract female fans. Look at who girls heroworship. Female tennis players, runners, footballers, swimmers, skiers etc. I reckon that the main reason women aren't into motorsports is that there are hardly any female rolemodels so it is associated with being a 'guy's thing'.

2 She's Italian. The Italians love motorsport but for a long time there hasn't been an Italian rally driver fighting for podiums. There is currently also no Italian brand (which is a shame) and that is not going to change any time soon by the looks of it so she'd get the Tifosi back into rallying.

3 Her being a woman would also give the WRC an edge over F1 where there is almost no chance we'll see a female competitor any time soon.

4 It would be fun seeing her battling with her boyfriend Craig Breen :D
13th January 2018, 15:57
N.O.T

wow...

no wonder people consider the west a lost case....
13th January 2018, 16:27
Watson

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13th January 2018, 16:58
AL14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watson

1 She's female so she'd attract female fans. Look at who girls heroworship. Female tennis players, runners, footballers, swimmers, skiers etc. I reckon that the main reason women aren't into motorsports is that there are hardly any female rolemodels so it is associated with being a 'guy's thing'.

2 She's Italian. The Italians love motorsport but for a long time there hasn't been an Italian rally driver fighting for podiums. There is currently also no Italian brand (which is a shame) and that is not going to change any time soon by the looks of it so she'd get the Tifosi back into rallying.

3 Her being a woman would also give the WRC an edge over F1 where there is almost no chance we'll see a female competitor any time soon.

4 It would be fun seeing her battling with her boyfriend Craig Breen :D

lol you serious?
13th January 2018, 17:17
Watson

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Originally Posted by AL14

lol you serious?

Well, only under the circumstance that she delivers and is competitive. I'm not suggesting she should get a seat just because she is a woman. Assuming she is that good, don't you think I have a point?
13th January 2018, 17:44
tommeke_B

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Originally Posted by Watson

Well, only under the circumstance that she delivers and is competitive. I'm not suggesting she should get a seat just because she is a woman. Assuming she is that good, don't you think I have a point?

Why would you assume she is "that good"? If you would have followed the results of her events in the past few years you should know she is not "that good". ;) Of course it would be a good thing having a very talented female rally driver, but there hasn't been one since a very long time...
13th January 2018, 17:48
racerx1979

Michelle Mouton...
13th January 2018, 17:49
focus206

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watson

2 She's Italian. The Italians love motorsport but for a long time there hasn't been an Italian rally driver fighting for podiums. There is currently also no Italian brand (which is a shame) and that is not going to change any time soon by the looks of it so she'd get the Tifosi back into rallying.

Not really, unless she's very good (which so far, to be honest, doesn't look like so). Nobody cares about Bertelli, no matter his nationality.
About her being a girl, I don't really see much of a difference in the impact she may have... maybe unless, again, she's very good.
13th January 2018, 18:21
N.O.T

i also enjoy the female presence in Motorsport.... its like the comedy relief characters in worthless action flicks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRB2QTP8DpU

rallying is a mens sport... we have those half men in F1 if we want to have a shot of feninism.
13th January 2018, 18:25
Watson

All my comments on her are assuming she turns out to be very good, I thought the hypothetical nature of my remarks were obvious. I'm not insane. At least not that badly. ;)

And no, I haven't followed her results.
13th January 2018, 18:39
AL14

Anyway, even if we agree that she is not good enough for the WRC2 level I must say that a chance to drive 5 rallys in a R5 on WRC events doesn't come very often and if I were she I would have accepted as well.
13th January 2018, 18:46
Watson

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

i also enjoy the female presence in Motorsport.... its like the comedy relief characters in worthless action flicks...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRB2QTP8DpU

rallying is a mens sport... we have those half men in F1 if we want to have a shot of feninism.

You sound like someone who has severe insecurities about their own manlihood. Must be a tough life. That also explains all the anger. You should see a shrink.
13th January 2018, 18:47
ESTR

Nobody cares if she's good, as long as she's hot... And don't say nothing...
13th January 2018, 19:14
spiderem

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Originally Posted by ESTR

Nobody cares if she's good, as long as she's hot... And don't say nothing...

well i think all the macho comments are pure jalousie and we would all love this opportunity backed up by Red Bull. Good for her, as long as she has the minimum skills to control a R5 and not end up killing herself or the spectators. Let see if we still hear from her in 3 years time.
13th January 2018, 19:37
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by spiderem

as long as she has the minimum skills to control a R5 and not end up killing herself or the spectators.

lol... talking about high expectations....
13th January 2018, 19:39
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Watson

You sound like someone who has severe insecurities about their own manlihood. Must be a tough life. That also explains all the anger. You should see a shrink.

you sound like the new breed of british people...

could be worse.

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