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Hyundai is just.. too weak
Playing the game, means playing the game, there is no Loeb in his game though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
No not a Loeb hater but facts are facts - the championship in 2011 was fixed at SpainQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
True rally fans would have wanted a proper fight but Citroen (and I have no reason to suspect it was Loebs wish) decided to handicap Ogier. It's a shame they still managed the championship due to Mikko's misfortune on WRGB
this a re-upload.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
video from shake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWNziI-0TcU
Mintex, to be honest I don't know what would be enough Loeb to achieve, to his fans, it is out of my mind capabilities......
i haven t read any fact till now.Same thing do all Loebhaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
wrong they were trying to fix it much earlier,when Loeb sweeping all gravel rallies and Ogier togather with some clueless fans were thinking that they were already ready for No1 against a 7 time world champion.These are FACTS.Loeb sweeping all gravel rallies.periodQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Even when Loeb sweeping all gravel rallies,Ogier didnt managed to collect more points than him.Thats a FACT.
What they decide to do after midseason(when Loeb sweeping and couldnt pass him in points) you will read at next quote.
wrong again.Proper fight isnt happening with closed gps at Acropolis.Thats a fact... there are videos at stage stop with journalist asking Ogier and saying lies.Thats a fact and you can find the video at youtube.This girlie play was happening with Quesnels approval.Thats why he discharged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
So yes somes they didn t want proper fight,but this wasnt Loeb.And these are facts.Way earlier than Spain.
Mikko was unlucky? lolololQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
please no more science fiction.
one more championship with Loeb teammate sweeping gravel rallies,and Loeb closing the gps with Matton approval.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
This must be the most worthy championship from all.
next question please.
Loeb would never agree to drive for VW:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I don't want to, lets just enjoy the Rallies, though I don't see why it is so hard for Loeb fans to "enjoy" them...... Loeb is 9 (nine times) world champion, is it not enough? I'm little curious, what he needs to prove more. If it is fair-to-fair title against his compatriot - Ogier, why he didn't take the challenge in '13? Lets say that is my question..... And please without arguments with the superior VW car.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Dimviii, so You keep saying Quesnels has been behind Ogier the whole time. Why this is such a problem when at the end Loeb has won the championship(s) (well Quesnels was then fired from Citroen WRT, but this is not important, right:)?).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
In my country we have a saying - "the guilty one escapes not being pursuit", is this the case?
how did you understant something like this?Of course i enjoy rallies,even Loeb dont participate.Havent you seen me watching ALL rallies at wrc and erc last 7 years here?Wrong conclusion mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
unfortunately for Loebhaters is not enough.They say that he HAD to stay for the 2013 (at age of 39-40)to make them 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
9 wrc championships are not enough for them.
at first sentence you say that ''what he needs to proove more'' and at next sentence you ask me ''why he didn t take the challenge''Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Watch out these are symptoms of Loebphobia.This disease is not easy to heal.
at rallies with bad terren(asphalt or gravel or snow) which requaries suspension travel is superior.Thats something easy visible from videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Loeb is the greatest rally driver of all time, possibly the greatest driver in the history of motorsports.
Let the rest, beat the best - Loeb has nothing left to prove, no records left to break!
Ogier could win many titles throughout his career but he'll always lack the most important one - "THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP".
The Artist of Rallying - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBITgght8uo
http://www.schiavon-sa.com/wp-conten...stien-loeb.jpg
Internet is full of people who are just waiting till anybody makes a mistake and then they start their rage to have their pleasure. You can't win with them all, there isn't enough time in our lives and I'm sure you know what is the best defense to at least not get crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I only see struggling from Loeb fans, sorry, that is my impression.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Again, these 2 days I only see Loeb fans fighting with some imaginable enemy. There is no one to argue, even after this day of Loeb's disaster, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Don't worry about this, I haven't noticed any symptoms of this disease lately. I was just little worried about Loeb fans, seems they struggle....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ok, I never really wanted Loeb to continue whatever fight it is somewhere there. VW is actually superior car, but isn't a champion like Loeb able to humiliate such advantage:D:D.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
SS 1 - 22 sec... enough humiliation
why is a problem to close the gps sensor so nobody can see your splits? Even your team? in my country this we call it CHEATING.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Yoy ask whats the problem when your young teammate finds clear gravel road and pushes the other one till the end of the last stage of the rally,even when the difference with Fords was minutes?Is it right for you?That was happening with Quesnels wishes.
That girlie trick was happening at more than 1st half of season.He didn t manage to pass him......
A 7 time champion admits respect,not sabotage.
because after midseason this Ogier patronising from Quesnel came to psa heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Ogier at interviews had ridiculed the company which helped him to be what he is today.Ogiers interviews about justice etc stupid things(justice the cheater with closed gps sensors....)
We have to say that Loeb after all these sabotages didn t say ONE word to journalists,not moaning while they were sabotaging him.Journalists were asking him at every rally.Not a word.
After that, without Quesnels patronising we saw the real difference between them.
The next are well known.Loeb champion even with sabotage from inside his team,and Ogier run away,because he had fucked up his relations with psa.
Quesnel fired because his work as a manager didnt manage to administrate right his drivers.From his choices was very easy to loose both championships.When Ogier who hadn t something to loose was pushing him till last km.If Ogier bin it no problem,young driver,now he is learning.If Loeb bin it he would be the bad driver and looser.But a driver ,even Loeb, is impossible to push him all year for all stages and dont make mistake.Its not fair.
Thats why i laugh loud when Ogier moans about start positions etc.
And all these is even if he gets 15 world championships and 1500 stage wins,in my heart wont be Loeb.
Loeb fast,and professional,at all levels.
@ 1:03 I am speechless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWD8R1CNhkQ
I don't want to continue such single minded discussion, I didn't even intend to start it. Loeb is happy Citroen has backed him, Citroen were happy to backup Loeb (probably now they are sorry for it, who cares?), Ogier is happy with VW and VW are happy with Ogier, end of story. I'm also happy to watch some real competition nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
you havent got to be sorry because of wrong impressions.These are symptoms of Loebphobia.I will take care dont worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
i dont see any enemies nore fights.Maybe you have to check your eyes.Loebphobia hasnt any relation with eyes,only with brain,but you never be sure with such diceases.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
disaster? what disaster? The only disaster i saw is that present wrc drivers are slow.Even the champion inside his hometown.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
dont be sure about symptoms of Loebphobia.Its very tricky dicease,it calms down for long periods,and comes back.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
but before 2 posts you asked me why he didnt participate at 40 years for a 10th championship....Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
of course he himulate.Till stage 6 after 110 stage km he was faster against the superior car.All these after 15 months out of wrc with wrong tyre choices at the big 25km stages,and starting with dirty roads that were slower, if we believe ALL drivers quotes at stage stops(except Ogier because he hasnt very good relations with truth)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
its not single,you ask i answer.If i have any mistake at my answers you can mention it to me to discuss.But discuss with FACTS like me.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
but you participate for hours.Dont you enjoy that i have answers with FACTS at all over the science fiction questions or statements you make?The bad is that you havent answers at any i wrote.You trying to change subjects at every post.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
i enjoy it.Keep them coming.
which stage is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
We all know that you love Sebastian Loeb, and that you think that he is the "greatest Motorsport driver of all times"(sic), to quote another well known denizen of this forum. Ok, no problem. But, the Loeb era is over. He made a one-off comeback, and despite getting off to a stupendous start, he couldn't stay on the road. You need to accept that there might be alternative viewpoints to yours. Not everyone feels the same as you do; the world would be very boring if they did. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ford, Citroen and VW have all won stages in a very hard rally. Looks to me those brands are all capable of winning rallies, but it is the crew skills that are the difference at the moment.
Although he isn't up there with the Seb's, I feel Tanak has done well for his first factory drive so far, a well balanced and sensible approach with some pace where it is safe to push. And as the top guys push he is there to pick up the pieces. A good sign for the season ahead hopefully.
Very strange vid...I have OK connection and every time every car in the exit to the last of the three sections all the cars suddenly jump ahead...camera or editing tricks but not reality..Or poor upload or poor down load but from here it looked like manipulated, cars don't jump head several car length in half second..You notice that?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Oh boy:ohplease:
That corner especially is only wet, not icy, so it seems possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Good morning guys!!
Teemu/Rallirinki.net @HartusvuoriWRC before 2 hours
Got a pissed text from my friend approaching SS9/11. Roads are closed further than told, full traffic chaos, roadside park, 11 km walk
yeah:)...and it is his weakest rally of the year, done just once in 2012 and his co-driver is first time hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
Fredrik Gustavsson @F_Gustavsson
BREAKING NEWS: First stage of the day, SS9 is cancelled for safety reason.. #RallyeMonteCarlo #WRC
Why is SS9 cancelled? Did Ogier request it to be?
that sucks
Over load of spectators
Out of topic, is the private messages box working well?
seems no,i have a private message and i cant read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5xcDBtkCo
When spectator overcrowding caused the cancelation of a stage in Spain 10 years ago, there was a near riot.
Saturday + Loeb + MonteCralo rally :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
That's why they ran so much of the stage km's over past two days...
between 4 and 5 minutes Loeb crash from outside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exAdg-mosLg