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No chance...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
That's a shame, would be interesting to see how Paddon copes after 4(?) seasons of not being in a WRC (/Rally1) car.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
The article is completely wrong. It has two key facts totally back-to-front:Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
1. The car with which Evans' lord and saviour Adamo won Hyundai two championships in '19 and '20 was Nandan's baby.
2. The car currently falling apart all over the world is very much Adamo's legacy.
With this in mind, how would bringing back the man who oversaw the development of the i20 Rally1 to its current position actually help them? Would he miraculously find a way to stop the front end falling off and the transmission failing? If so, why wasn't that built into the car in the first place?
No. The reality is, the buck has to stop somewhere, and in this case, the man in charge when this car was being brought to homologation was... Andrea Adamo.
You sure about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
You are mostly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
I feel the most important thing for pardon is finish the race
but who will be the responsible for the failing in season and how will the Hyundai going
No, if he is slow, why would someone hire him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
He must show some speed (no need to be faster than Suninen but close to him)
True, however he did say in an interview that his aim is to be on the pace in Finland and that Estonia is just the second test before then.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Even if Paddon would win WRC2 in Estonia and Finland, it would be a tough job to get a Rally1 seat for next year. Just as Mikkelsen.
In Estonian media Tänak was asked about this meeting they had in Germany without Moncet and he said he doesn't understand why there was so much talk about it. For him it was rather a regular meeting they have before and after the rallies. When he was asked about the situation in the team, then he said that "it is very open inside the team". Whatever it means...
He was also asked about PET and he said that it was rather restricted and some of the things he couldn't test at all because of these restrictions. This is just a rumor but what I have heard was that when Neuville was scheduled to test on the second day and it was said to be cancelled because of weather, it was actually cancelled because of missing parts. He was finally able to test on the 3rd day, when it was actually Solberg's turn. And then Solberg had to make his PET in Finland instead.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/h...sues/10337820/Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
And this completes the rumour about the parts, well part of it anyhow.
Would expect such story from a team that entered WRC this season.. not from one of the biggest manus in the world, running 9th season..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Have you ever worked on either?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
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Originally Posted by Eli
No. It is just weird. M-Sport can run 5 cars on a weekend, but Hyundai is having problems testing on schedule..Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
what kind of parts need the 6 months delivery time?? can't believe that .
Read the article, it explainsQuote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
You would be surprised mateQuote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
M-Sport started development & planning more or less 1 year before hiundayQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
And Hyundai needs those parts for their main cars. They don't have anything to spare at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
Lead times at the moment for pretty muc heverything at least doubled compared to years ago. Especially everything with electronics.
I've ordered parts (nothing to do with motorsport) with leadtimes of a year recently...
To me it looks like they have way to little testing for a new car.
How many testdays have the different Rally1 teams clocked in 2022?
How many testdays is a team allowed?
Solberg said the Hyundai is too stiff in set-up, and he has not been allowed to do his own set-up before.
After saturday morning he has, together with his engineer, changed the base set-up to much softer and he trust the car again.
All the drivers don't trust the rear of the car, but are Tänak and Neuville not allowed to do theire own set-up?
Hyundai need to learn something from Subaru's 2006 season.
That is the schoolbook example of bad leadership, just trust the engineers and not the drivers.
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Tänak said that the fundamentals of the car are way off. Dunno exactly what but he said that it's not a setup issueQuote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
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Latvala said that they schould redesign the entire rear, both suspension and aerodynamics?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
The next question, when this is so obvious, why don't they do something?
I know from friends that work together with asian manufacturers that if its something wrong, noone dares to do anything before the big boss has said what to do.
Hyundai is based in germany, so they should't have that problem here?
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I'm afraid this all ends up with a Hyundai withdrawal at the end of the year....
How the fuck can they not even have appointed a team manager?! Neuville and Tanak having talks with Korean bosses..., and rumours this weekend emerging that Neuville could be out BEFORE the end of the season....
What a mess.
Tanak has been in the team through the whole development of this carQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
Also ever since Paddon there have been issue of "not listening to drivers".
Note that it's not really Korean team at all.
What rumours?Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Let's clear this one out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Tänak stayed in the team to develop new car BUT there have not been any development of the car. Just delayed decisions and some last-minute emergency solutions.
And we thought Citroën's situation was bad back in the day... this is just something else. They're on a different planet but unlike Kalle, not on a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
@OttTanak: "Obviously we know what we need to do, we just need to start doing it. The potential is there..."
He has been driving various prototypes since mid 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Those prototypes looked different than what they entered Monte with. (Also there was quite some talk here with various sources on how the new car is "being made for him").
= There has been development. Maybe not enough, maybe too late, maybe in wrong direction.
Anyway I partly don't get the drama, compared with Puma there doesn't seem to be much difference (even taking Breen vs Tanak/Neuville into account) both in speed and reliability.
Toyota is better and Kalle is on a great form, so what. In 2018 and 2019 it was similar for Ogier.
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Please, just hire a team manager! For God’s sake!!!!
You mean, please don't pull the plug after this year, although after Estonia I'm guessing it's (even) harder for them to justify it for the board above.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
Wow this will solve everything right?Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
They already have a team manager.
No it does not solve everything but if you have ever worked in big corporations where there are multiple departments doing their own for one common goal, you know how important leadership and pulling all things together for one common goal is.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
Tänak and Neuville have both multiples times hinted or even outright said that the leadership is working, that they need a real team manager leading things and also hinted that Moncet is not the man for that.
It does not fix everything but it sure would be a good start.
Service park rumours.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
I'm sure Dirtfish will report them in the coming weeks unless they're paid off to shut up by Hyundai.
Well there were also rumors Tanak would retire before this year and we saw how that went. Let's see, I hope Hyundai gets their act together and don't retire that would kind of kill the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
lololQuote:
Originally Posted by er88