It's almost sure that they will salute wrc for wtcc.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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It's almost sure that they will salute wrc for wtcc.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
They would have done so without the abu dhabi money... now they are more of a moving advertisement for that place rather than a factory team.
Abu Dhabi have another three years with Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
There is no rallying without advertisement and sponsorship.
For the privateers is essential for the serious manufacturers, no...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
Manufacturers do rallying for advertisement too.
yes, but for their own, not for extrenal ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
So how is Abu Dhabi better advertised than RedBull on Volkswagen or Shell on Hyundai?
Citroens budget depends on Abu Dhabi... VW and Hyundais not... or not so much that without them they would not compete, same like every proper manufacturer involvement that entered the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariusz
Volkswagen and Hyundai teams are pretty young compared to Citroen, so their investments need to be higher, nothing unusual here.
I think it's all about how a relationship with sponsor starts in the beginning of a project; KHALID AL QASSIMI wanted a seat and bought himself into Citroen that's where sponsor relationship started. As well as Red Bull did as personal sponsor of Ogier it was apparent (Sainz was also strong related to Red Bull ; Dakar Tuareg VW) that they want some stickers on the Polo.
a confirm of that (support rally i.e. Al Qassimi) is that on WTCC Abu Dhabi is not a sponsor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ounin
Sebastien Loeb and his own racing team had Red Bull backing, would be interesting if next year the 2 customer C-elysee will have red bull stickers
Garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ounin
The controlling families of both Red Bull (Mateschitz) and VW (Piech) have always been very close. That's why they each sponsor / support each other.
It has nothing to do with the drivers.
In fact, by default of driving with their teams, the drivers become Red Bull athletes.
Loeb will be in Monte Carlo!
http://lequipe.fr/Rallye/Actualites/...ww.google.fr/&
Round 1 just got a bit more interesting!!
Nice to see him back but he will be nowhere near the top pace setters, too much time out of the game. In France last year he was out for a couple of months and he felt it immediatly, nowhere near Ogier's pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
I think his goal should be to be top citroen...
nice news!
Loeb won 4 stages in France 2013. He was just 3.5s behind Ogier, and 5.0s off the lead before he went off the road on SS15. That's pretty close in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Loeb says he will be testing so is taking it seriously, not just for fun...
He will do French Rallye du Var, with wife Severine calling notes. “That will give me the chance to reacquaint myself with the car,” he said.
“We have also managed to find a few slots in my schedule so I can take part in testing. I’m absolutely delighted about this opportunity to meet up with the big rallying family during the FIA WTCC off-season!”
Yves Matton, Citroën Racing Team Principal said: When I told the team today that Sébastien Loeb and Daniel Elena would be driving a DS3 WRC at Rallye Monte-Carlo, the news was greeted with great enthusiasm! With seven wins here, Seb and Daniel are undeniably the event’s greatest specialists, and I’m sure that they will be extremely competitive.”
Loeb will also benefit from the DS3 evolution..
“The first step will come at Rallye Monte Carlo with a new engine, using the same philosophy as the one we are running in World Touring Cars. We will also have new suspension and introduce the new paddle-shift [gear selector] that we are allowed to use next year.”
Why he agreed do this, he will only embarass himself.
so much pain after 2 years?
Indeed. But let's not let little things like "facts" and "what actually happened" cloud the narratives that we choose to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Great news!
does that mean ostberg or who ever will be meekes teammate in 2015 does not rally in monte ??
Depends, do we know which 4 rounds Khalid is running yet?
If Ostberg isn't running this one, it would tally with the rumour that he was offered 10 rounds and maybe Seb will do the other 2 too (not sure the WTCC calendar is public yet, but I'm sure the teams will know).
Otherwise, perhaps the third car is to be shared between Al Quassimi, Loeb and Kubica?
Either way, it would indicate that Teams Classification and rally wins are the target, rather than the drivers' championship.
Good to see the car developing further and benefitting from the WTCC programme too.
Mercedes will be sponsoring Rally Finland next year and according to this article they have studied possibilities about a WRC entry.
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes...3FAleI.twitter
So, is it April fools yet?
if someone raped you repeatedly for a decade would you forget him after just 2 years ?? do not pay attention the scars are deep...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/41760.aspx They are official car sponsor of the event indeed. But I guess it's something between the national importer of Mercedes-Benz and the Finnish federation, and it has little to do with Mercedes getting involved in rallying. Also rallye-magazin.de has a long history of publishing crap-articles.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Why would he let you rape him back.. just for fun ?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It is called rape because it happens either you let him do it or not... Loeb haters know that really really well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
My gosh NOT, you are such a LOEB FANBOY :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
This is getting too silly
Take that F1 girly talk elsewhereQuote:
Originally Posted by Toyoda
The national importer of MB in Finland is a company called Veho. They also import Citroen, Ford, Honda, Skoda and Smart of which Citroen has been the official car sponsor for the event for few years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
So, just guessing, but maybe Veho will not import or doesn't want to promote the new brand "DS" (only top-line models, no vans, pickups, etc. needed in rally organisation) but at the same time doesn't want to lose the huge national publicity gained through NORF collaboration and therefore continues by changing the car brand to one which can provide different kind of cars...
The Loeb Love is strong in him, and one or two others here. Any posts exhibiting anything other than outright Loeb Love will be met with a furious reaction, as you have seen….;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyoda
Forwarding a post that just appeared on my FB page: "Did you want a Paulo's comeback in rally ?" ......I'm starting my countdown to the venom-laced reply from our resident Greek philosopher! 10........9.....8......
A bit off-topic, but I don't think Veho is importer for Ford or Skoda (Ford Suomi and Helkama Auto respectively, I assume), they just sell those brands. They do import both PSA brands Citroen and Peugeot, having bought Auto Bon almost two decades ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Great news about Loeb doing Monte Carlo. It will be interesting how competive he can be though. I assume that Ogier can be a little bit faster especially driving the Polo, Jari - Matti has now the speed on tarmac but Monte Carlo is not a pure tarmac rally with all the snow and ice and I doubt that he can read the changing grip better than Loeb. Don't think that anyone else can be on par with these 3 guys. So a second place is very realistic goal! Of course I will be very happy if Loeb can be on the higher step of the podium!
EXCLUSIVE: TÄNAK ON HIS M-SPORT COMEBACK
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/novem...3--12-12-.html