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10th July 2016, 15:02
DonJippo

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAS007

This is the central question, re: M-Sport. My best guess is that Malcolm is trying to hang in there until either a major sponsor is found, or until Ford comes back into the picture.

Reason why M-Sport is in WRC is to sell cars, that's where the money comes from.
10th July 2016, 19:32
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

of course M sport can win championships with a duel of good drivers ,even without Ford backing.
Fiesta is a capable car at tarmac and gravel. Their economics allows them to be present at all wrc rounds,cant find any reason why not to be champions, if the driver is capable.

That's a mighty big if you have there.

It does seem like MW Motorsport, much like Pro-drive before them (and with some of the same key people)
are themselves not really devoted to the idea to be champignons . Drivers capable of being champignons cost a LOT of money... That seems to be in conflict with Malcolm's evident intention to MAKE lots of money and to expand the business into a grand scheme...because the big growth in all kinds of other (other than winning Whirled Rally Champignonskit title) operations didn't happen by accident or just spring up like mushrooms after a rain.

In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness..

(va fan säger vi på engelska?)

And if we look back at all the years of M-sport that seems to be lacking especially when we look at how guys there seem to languish and lose direction or momentum.

It seems Malcolm wants a car business empire in Cumbria and it seems he is winning that battle.
10th July 2016, 21:27
Fast Eddie WRC

Time to move the above discussion to the M-Sport thread.

Now back to Ostberg...
10th July 2016, 23:16
Lundefaret

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

That's a mighty big if you have there.

It does seem like MW Motorsport, much like Pro-drive before them (and with some of the same key people)
are themselves not really devoted to the idea to be champignons . Drivers capable of being champignons cost a LOT of money... That seems to be in conflict with Malcolm's evident intention to MAKE lots of money and to expand the business into a grand scheme...because the big growth in all kinds of other (other than winning Whirled Rally Champignonskit title) operations didn't happen by accident or just spring up like mushrooms after a rain.

In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness..

(va fan säger vi på engelska?)

And if we look back at all the years of M-sport that seems to be lacking especially when we look at how guys there seem to languish and lose direction or momentum.

It seems Malcolm wants a car business empire in Cumbria and it seems he is winning that battle.

Single mindedness?
11th July 2016, 00:05
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness.[I].

(va fan säger vi på engelska?)

http://i.imgur.com/rmphKPO.gif
11th July 2016, 10:56
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness.[I].

(va fan säger vi på engelska?)

.

Persistence? Obstinacy? Insistence?
11th July 2016, 22:03
RAS007

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

That's a mighty big if you have there.

It does seem like MW Motorsport, much like Pro-drive before them (and with some of the same key people)
are themselves not really devoted to the idea to be champignons . Drivers capable of being champignons cost a LOT of money... That seems to be in conflict with Malcolm's evident intention to MAKE lots of money and to expand the business into a grand scheme...because the big growth in all kinds of other (other than winning Whirled Rally Champignonskit title) operations didn't happen by accident or just spring up like mushrooms after a rain.

In my somewhat simplistic view and limited experience: if you want to fight for WRC wins, then fight for WRC wins with a little --sorry folks my Angleski fails me--so I use a word from when I was fighting for skills to do another motorsport--- with a little 'envishet'...That's Square-head talk and is 3 parts: 'en' = one; then 'vis' (not to be confused with fis) is 'vision' or 'view' and then the end 'het' is like ness...One-vision-ness..

(va fan säger vi på engelska?)

And if we look back at all the years of M-sport that seems to be lacking especially when we look at how guys there seem to languish and lose direction or momentum.

It seems Malcolm wants a car business empire in Cumbria and it seems he is winning that battle.

In other words, Malcolm is not really interested in winning, anymore. If it happens as a byproduct of expanding his car business, great, but it is not the main goal.
12th July 2016, 00:42
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lundefaret

Single mindedness?

Yeah ....best..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZXlhSgq7us

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12th July 2016, 00:47
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAS007

In other words, Malcolm is not really interested in winning, anymore. If it happens as a byproduct of expanding his car business, great, but it is not the main goal.

It seems quite evident...especially looking at driver choice over the years..
12th July 2016, 00:48
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

http://i.imgur.com/rmphKPO.gif

Don't understand 'envishet', even when explained?

You're not trying hard enough.
12th July 2016, 01:53
danon

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Yeah ....best..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZXlhSgq7us

http://i.giftrunk.com/gmvpaz.gif
19th April 2017, 23:33
Fast Eddie WRC

Ostberg 2017 plans just confirmed:

WRC - all remaining 2017 events
ERC - Poland & Italy in R5
Spain - two rounds for tarmac practice

Podcast including interview: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-qu8kn-69e93e
22nd November 2017, 08:29
Zeakiwi

Just to put the car link in the Mads' message thread
https://rallycarsforsale.net/ads/ford-fiesta-wrc-2017/

What happened to the '2011' FIA philosophy to make cars simpler, safer and more affordable? e.g 2011 Fiesta etc
Will separate manufacturers of power units be required, if the wrc goes Hybrid? e.g MSport running the Mercedes Formula 1 power unit, Citroen running the renault unit etc?
22nd November 2017, 08:38
Mirek

The philosophy was changed with the coming of new promoter RedBull and I believe VW was also pushing for the new rules.
22nd November 2017, 12:03
nafpaktos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeakiwi

Just to put the car link in the Mads' message thread
https://rallycarsforsale.net/ads/ford-fiesta-wrc-2017/

What happened to the '2011' FIA philosophy to make cars simpler, safer and more affordable? e.g 2011 Fiesta etc
Will separate manufacturers of power units be required, if the wrc goes Hybrid? e.g MSport running the Mercedes Formula 1 power unit, Citroen running the renault unit etc?

Where this car will be eligible to race apart from the wrc?
22nd November 2017, 12:12
Tarmop

There`s one going to start in Czech rallysprint, so probably there are national events, where this car is allowed.
22nd November 2017, 12:34
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

There`s one going to start in Czech rallysprint, so probably there are national events, where this car is allowed.

It's not a championship event but only a show event. Normally it's not allowed here.
22nd November 2017, 12:40
Andre Oliveira

Mads participated in Norway with their car. Neuville in Autoglym.
22nd November 2017, 12:57
AnttiL

There just aren't any national championships where that car can score points.
22nd November 2017, 14:19
pantealex

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

There just aren't any national championships where that car can score points.

but you can start with WRC17 in almost everywhere.
22nd November 2017, 14:23
Mirek

No, You can't. Even in show events or anything local there has a to be some class established for such car and mostly there is none.
22nd November 2017, 16:02
Oliverk

Yes there is
22nd November 2017, 17:13
Tarmop

Estonia for instance would`ve had no restrictions this year, don`t know about 2018. But i suggest moving/continuing this discussion into/in a more appropriate thread.
22nd November 2017, 17:30
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira

Mads participated in Norway with their car. Neuville in Autoglym.

But it wasn't an easy entry due to the Norwegian Federation turning down the first application.
FIA and the rally was cool with it but for some reason they are always so difficult with these things here, Mads even spent his whole vacation trying to get a start in Rally Hedemarken sortet.
Shows you how eager Mads is to give something back to the fans, unlike one guy who didn't start an event here since 99'...
23rd November 2017, 09:23
pantealex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

No, You can't. Even in show events or anything local there has a to be some class established for such car and mostly there is none.

OK, I wrote almost, you wrote mostly not.

In Finland, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Middle-East, USA, Russia and Asia you can.

But yes in "important rally-countries" (Middle Europe) you can´t.

Only reason to buy "WRC17" is WRC events not any village event everywhere.
29th January 2018, 18:52
Mk2 RS2000

https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/motorspo...-classic-rally
29th January 2018, 22:51
Fast Eddie WRC

Mads is also back in WRC for Rally Sweden in the 3rd Citroen C3. Interesting to see how he gets on with it...
30th January 2018, 11:02
A FONDO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Mads is also back in WRC for Rally Sweden in the 3rd Citroen C3. Interesting to see how he gets on with it...

Complaining every time someone points a microphone towards him, about little testing, some unfamiliar stage which he has driven only 5 times the last 7 years etc etc.
30th January 2018, 16:22
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by A FONDO

Complaining every time someone points a microphone towards him, about little testing, some unfamiliar stage which he has driven only 5 times the last 7 years etc etc.

Getting used to new co-driver..
30th January 2018, 17:14
ESTR

Quote:

Originally Posted by A FONDO

Complaining every time someone points a microphone towards him, about little testing, some unfamiliar stage which he has driven only 5 times the last 7 years etc etc.

I don't see any other more positive and happy to drive and really enjoying rallying at all than Mads. Sure he complain a little there and a little there but who doesn't. Every interview from everone contains almost all about negative things. Except Breen, he enjoy being in a world rally car even if it's crap, but he appreciate it every second that he can be there. He is a great driver, just don't get the chance to shine.
30th January 2018, 18:39
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by A FONDO

Complaining every time someone points a microphone towards him, about little testing, some unfamiliar stage which he has driven only 5 times the last 7 years etc etc.

If Østberg complains about the C3 it wont be any surprise or any more than Meeke does. Even Loeb said it was difficult to drive other than on dry tarmac...

It s a shame that Mads fell out with M-Sport and/or lacked the money to be out in the Fiesta again. He could've done something in Sweden.
30th January 2018, 18:47
EstWRC

every year the talk he will do something in sweden but he doesnt....
31st January 2018, 21:55
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESTR

I don't see any other more positive and happy to drive and really enjoying rallying at all than Mads. Sure he complain a little there and a little there but who doesn't. Every interview from everone contains almost all about negative things. Except Breen, he enjoy being in a world rally car even if it's crap, but he appreciate it every second that he can be there. He is a great driver, just don't get the chance to shine.

With Mads it always seems like an excuse, but I have to agree with one thing - he usually does it with a smile on his face still.
7th February 2018, 10:07
AnttiL

https://parcferme.no/rally/mads-svae...kkforer-igjen/

Mads interview in Norwegian, translates nicely to English with google translate. Nothing new really though.
7th February 2018, 10:33
Fast Eddie WRC

He has pace and is spectacular to watch. Just enjoy that and dont bother with his comments if you are just going to criticise.
13th February 2018, 21:08
PLuto

Mads Ostberg on official video before Rally Sweden - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3BvDrIq_ok
11th January 2021, 09:43
M5

What is the plan for Ostberg in 2021?
11th January 2021, 13:37
Rallyper

Think it´s coming soon, according to message on FB or Tw.
12th January 2021, 21:21
Tom206wrc

But he will have to wait long now for the 3rd round of WRC(Sweden being cancelled)in case he gets a contract for WRC2 :mark:
13th January 2021, 07:24
pantealex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

But he will have to wait long now for the 3rd round of WRC(Sweden being cancelled)in case he gets a contract for WRC2 :mark:

WRC2 drivers can score from max 6 or 7 events.

He can easily start from 2nd ;) Rally

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