M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

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Originally Posted by MentalParadox

Would be an interesting opportunity to see how the WRC Fiesta compares to the Rally1 Puma. On a fast rally like Sweden, the Puma may be faster?

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I actually had this thought today. It’s chassis balance certainly looks much better (strong rear end) and confidence inspiring, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was at least as quick in a lot of circumstances.

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

There's no such 2022 spec, restrictor is still as it was. Only restriction on WRC17 "when the driver has not scored points for a WRC Manufacturer Team in the previous five (5) seasons". Which makes it not a fair test.

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Are you sure ?

Gryazin is allowed to drive full WRC17-21 spec ?

What about Katsuta, Loubet and Veiby ? They all have driven in B-teams not in Manufactures

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Originally Posted by MentalParadox

Would be an interesting opportunity to see how the WRC Fiesta compares to the Rally1 Puma. On a fast rally like Sweden, the Puma may be faster?

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For sure, but with Bertelli we're not getting that comparison

We can only estimate the pace through the difference to the fastest Rally2 car.

In Monte Carlo 2022 The fastest Rally2 car was around 2 s/km slower than fastest Rally1 car.
In Monte Carlo 2021 Greensmith was often slower than the fastest Rally2 cars or just barely faster.
In Monte Carlo 2020 Lappi and Suninen were roughly 1 s/km faster than fastest Rally2 car.

Maybe we are wiser once we get some results from Sweden, which we can then compare with Arctic Rally Finland 2021.

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

There's no such 2022 spec, restrictor is still as it was. Only restriction on WRC17 "when the driver has not scored points for a WRC Manufacturer Team in the previous five (5) seasons". Which makes it not a fair test.

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Are you sure? Maybe it's in some other document than the sporting regulations?

EDIT: I also tried to look but couldn't find an update on the restrictor...very strange...

How Loeb and M-Sport answered every question... an emotional read:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/loeb-...ion-over-them/

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Are you sure? Maybe it's in some other document than the sporting regulations?

EDIT: I also tried to look but couldn't find an update on the restrictor...very strange...

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It sounds familiar to me, too. Was it in one of M. Matton's pronouncements in an interview that somehow didn't get past the discussion at the WRC Commission?

I remember also Latvala talking about the smaller restrictor during Rally Finland pre-rally radio special where people could send in their questions.

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Originally Posted by pantealex

Are you sure ?

Gryazin is allowed to drive full WRC17-21 spec ?

What about Katsuta, Loubet and Veiby ? They all have driven in B-teams not in Manufactures

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Sporting regs point to 2021 Appendix J, Art. 255A which remains unchanged since March 2021. If the restrictor had changed shouldn't there be a 2022 Appendix J, Art. 255A?

The only other notes are they are eligible for WRC Teams championship and they will be Priority 2 group.

Getting hold of one might be an obstacle.

What has any of this got to do with M-Sport Ford WRT ?

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

What has any of this got to do with M-Sport Ford WRT ?

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They are basically the only brand whose WRC2017 cars are out there, and could be still seen on the stages. Hyundais and Toyotas will likely go to museums and private collections, or taken apart for spares for the current cars where applicable.