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http://csrallyphotos.weebly.com/84de...ontecarlo.html
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8162971&type=3
Any translation for non-Italian speaking? I don't like to use auto-translation in serious cases as it always creates only more confusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Hello everyone, I would like to write briefly what happened yesterday evening to checks the post race Montecarlo.
Let me start by saying that , but this does not justify anything, the winner of the race and then of the Trophy has not been verified...that during a reorganization in the race we suffered a control of presence plumbing turbo and to our adversary no because could not open the hood for the presence of additional lights ( us to open we unclipped) ...in the post race our Clio has been verified in many components : complete self-locking, exhaust manifold, catalyst, rear hubs, brake calipers and brake discs, anti-roll bar, proof ball turbo , all found in conformity. Finally begins the nightmare....complete disassembly turbine. Here after a whole series of measures has been found not to conform a machining on the inside nut part cold ( restrictor correct!) relating to a revision turbo pre race that with while the tolerances of the case appeared to be 0.7 mm in excess on measures in the fiche. It has been understood by those skilled in the FIA that the processing does not lead no obvious benefit, indeed, but the differences from the certified part led to the decision of the exclusion of the car without penalizing ll competitor, which confines itself to guide and well what is entrusted.
In this case the responsibility is all of the team, I in primis, which ought to have better control of their suppliers.
Now the biggest regret at the personal level and sports is having to lose to Luca Rossetti and Eleonora Mori a great opportunity.
The bitterness bigger than when we started this adventure that is called Dp Autosport does not allow me today to think about what the future hold for us.
However I would like to thank and apologize at the same time with the people that have allowed us to go to play the final of the Monte Carlo : William Giacomello, Michele Sassano, Danilo Colombini and PromoSportRacing, Exasat, Autofficina Ceriani, RG .
Thanks and sorry again.
Alessandro Pedrocchi
Dp Autosport
Mérci beaucoup
It's very difficult to translate it literally for me because there are a lot of techincal words and I really don't even know how the engine makes the wheel go...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The only thing I can do is a resume...
Who write is Alessandro Pedrocchi of PD Autosport. He referes to the Rossetti issue.
He says that, without the will of justify anything, the winner of the rally and the trophy has not been verified, during the rally they have been checked on something related with the turbo and their opponent didn't because he could not open the car because of the headlights on the bonnet (but they unfasten them and get checked).
After the race their Clio has been verified in a lot of components (and I can't translate them because I don't know what they are, but it seems they where a lot), and everything was good.
But then they dismantled the turbine and one thing inside it (which I can't translate either but Google translate says "a machining on the inside cold part snail" hope this can help you to understand) was found 0,7mm longer. It's not the restrictor because he says it was ok.
Everyone from FIA agreed this thing did not gave any advantage and that's why they didn't penalize Rossetti, but they decided to exclude the car from the race.
He is very sad because he said that the responibility is all of the team, and his in a first instance that should have checked better its supplier.
He says also that his bigger regret in a personal and sportive way is to have made lose Rossetti and Mori a big opportunity, it is the biggest disappointment since they started their adventure called Dp Autosport and he can't think now what they will be in the future.
He then thanks all his collaborators and sponsors and apologize once more with everyone.
God, I've just wasted 10 minutes of my life. You did a way better job btw :DQuote:
Originally Posted by René
Thanks, the technical side is clear for me from the FIA documents. The dimension (inner diameter of the compressor housing was 0,7 mm bigger than the upper level of tolerance. It was in fact 1,1 mm bigger than the nominal size.
The FIA document states that Mr. Toquet, FIA technical delegate, found difficult to estimate the impact on the performance however stated that in theory the turbocharger shall be better than homologated one (if somebody can reasonably explain why I would be grateful). What is important is that rules explicitely say that performance gain is irrelevant in case of non-homologated parts therefore the exclusion comes in place.
The FIA document: http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/201...ION-No.121.pdf
its fair to disqualify Rosseti.0,7 is way off the tolerances.
If he gained? Nobody can say,if you dont test these 2 different turbos at same dyno.
Fia says that also the turbine wheel was different to original provided by Renault.But they dont said if it is lighter,if it has less/more fins etc.
Pitty for Rosseti.
“It was exciting and it was a shame we couldn’t fight to the end of the rally. It was purely bad luck what happened to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Ogier at wrc.com
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/janua...5--12-12-.html
Jste vítejte (am I correct?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Unfortunately not. The phrase "You're welcome" is not used in that meaning in Czech language. We use an equivalent of "not at all" which we say as "není zač" [nanee zatch] :)
up the volume.Meeke on limiter
https://youtu.be/rj-PhwpScxQ
yes, it is equivalent of german "nichs zu danken" (we were under dominion of Habsburg monarchy, so lot of our words has same rules as german (austrian) phrases)
[QUOTE=dimviii;1078885]Quote:
Originally Posted by bunnings
Some crazy spectators again on that video. Specially those nutheads on the outside in front of mobile homes. Is a car goes off, they are crushed betweem rallycar and that caravan. InsaneQuote:
Originally Posted by bunnings
Of course what happend to Meeke was bad luck. All we know that he has the speed but he is making mistakes too often. His driving at rally was very good but again he had some small moments.
At SS1 he spun.
At the beggining of this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN0GKncM6Tw i think that he was lucky to escape from there without an off.
And here again was a small moment for him www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISVjSv3d9n8
PS: Lets hope next year to have a really fast car like VW to help him not making mistakes.
Thanks for all these fantastic fan videos !
(Who needs WRC+ with its live stages spoilt by the commentators and it's poor quality onboards ??)
The fans choice of the best viewpoints and the pure sound let us enjoy the real rally. :)
Ogier at a fast section
https://youtu.be/-PkZG35ZX_M
after Kremer crash at the pole ,i was wondering what happened with the next cars at the stage.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZmHjLqWEAAT1HN.jpg
All Ogier says is true. The battle was quite unpredictable until some point. I wonder what would have happened if Meeke was taking more risk with tyre choice, like Mikkelsen or Hyundais. Nevertheless my point generally is that Meeke still takes more risks to keep up with Ogier, may be he needs to as his car is not fast enough, I don't know. Ogier had only a moment or 2 the whole rally, while with Meeke there were bigger offs/spins.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
interesting, I wondered I about that too. Handy spectators!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
This sucks! In almost every single-make Cups if you try very hard you'll end finding something not totally conform. If it's true that Burri's car wasn't opened we'll never know if he was 100% legal and that's a shame. Especially for Renault Sport image!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It's hard for Rossetti but he must keep his head up! It wasn’t his fault and he deserves much better than a WRC3 program...he should be in CIR or ERC in a top R5 car. Best luck to him!
LOL the solitary man with the black jacket and the camera did not give a fuck all the time and kept taking pictures with the same identical pose.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
even when Kremer is about 10? meters from him straight forward,dont give a fuck,he is still taking photos.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
was wondering... Is there some geek guy in here that can take the gif dimvii posted some page ago about the crazy guy with the hyundai jacket and somehow cut it out in order to use it on other images or videos? I think it would be funny to see it on other contexts :D
If crews shall not be excluded for non-homologated turbo than please tell me what they would have to do to be excluded? In this case it's totally right to exclude him no matter how harsh it may look like. Think about it from the opposite side. Would be fair to his competitors to let him be when he clearly had non-homologated turbo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
About Burri... We don't know what actually happend and the history teach us not to believe in everything what team managers say. Anyway it's normal that FIA checks only selected cars, they simply can not check everyone.
If there was "the Red Bull" on the car the photo would be complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It seems we're lost in...communication! I agree with you and dimvii! 'This' was used as 'The whole situation' sucks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Off course Rossetti must be excluded, but as I pointed it's very rare to see a single-make car 100% legal when officials get into a meticulous inspection and it makes equal sense to open Rox's car (as the Cup overall winner) as Burri's car; after all, Burri it's not an 'everyone', he was the winner of the final (and most important) round of this Clio R3T Trophy.
Was Burri's car also fully inspected? A reliable answer to this question can make a big difference to understand this mess.
Btw, French and Italians are both masters in this sort of dubious situations:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2506863.stm
http://www.maxrally.com/2013/10/11/r...ce-of-rallying
Probably, an EDF employee making a report of the post destruction…;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Btw, great teamwork from spectators!
in French language we say "il n'y a pas de quoi"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Sorry for misunderstanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Andolfi vs Berfa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQ-G4jD8wI
Well, that is one way to say "check your mirrors".Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
I think You need to see this in another perspective, in regards to risk. Jari Matti Latvia also drivers a Volkswagen, drove slower than Meeke, but with a lot higher risk. Mikkelsen also had some moments, and especially one huge one that could have ended his rally. Its more about driving technique than the difference in cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Meeke drove a great rally, and he is adjusting his driving technique, but still has a little way to go.
Video of the guys fixing the pole after Kremer hit it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfXh...hK3GeCOUq1XMKs
I read my post in Yours, but I'm not speaking about Latvala & Mikkelsen, so may be difference in cars is negligible indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret