They are just waiting as everyone else regarding the future, promoter and if the new regulations will be successful. If don't they still could do a new Rally2 car.
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They are just waiting as everyone else regarding the future, promoter and if the new regulations will be successful. If don't they still could do a new Rally2 car.
I wouldn't say waiting, I think MW is rightfully avoiding any possibility of conflict of interest claims while having a plan in the background.
There's no chance of a new Rally2 car in 2028... it'll be a spaceframe chassis with an OEMs road car design, or M-Sports own.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Lancia's CEO dropped the bomb: they're looking at WRC27 regulations!
https://www.autosprint.it/news/rally..._alla_wrc_2027
(news in italian, written by a long-time WRC journo and Head of Rally Sardinia press office)
I think Pluto said that 2026 is the last year when it's possible to homologate a Rally2, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
What if WRC27 fail miserably? It would be complete stupidity if they would bot extend Rally2 homologation cycles and kill both cars at the same time. But with FIA I wouldn't be surprised.
If they fail then there won't be a WRC and the sport becomes for historics, tuners and amateurs anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Have we finally got Group S?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/09...g?v=1739346170
I dont think this necessarily confirms they will build a WRC27 spaceframe car.Quote:
Originally Posted by typhoon
It seems like they're just saying they'll continue in 2027 when their strong Rally2 Car will be able to compete in the top class.
Idk how much reliable is Google translate, but
"We are working on the project to prepare for WRC 27, a development step that interests us"
doesn't sound like they are talking about next season. I'm pretty sure plans for next year are already far beyond the "working on the project to prepare for" phase.
Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
But it seems they're putting a lot of work into the Rally2 car only to ditch it and spend considerably more developing a WRC27 spaceframe car.
Their car is homologated until 2032, so that's a lot of years for competing with that car. Also if WRC27 fails, which I'm still somehow convinced it will (no matter if we got 2 new teams in the championship), that car would be valid I think for further years.
GRIT Games will be wrc's game developer in 2027 (up until 2032?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu70aC1eMpI
we have the cars, the game... just lacking the promoter
During my time in the service park here, I heard a few things, one is that they’re still finalising the regulations for next year and two is they’re also thinking of reducing the power of the rally2 machines from 2027 onwards. One more thing, apparently the New rally1 machines won’t have a global racing engine anymore but a detuned rally2 engine, sorry if the last bit isn’t news but I asked since I wasn’t sure of it.
Are they nuts? Such a morons still scratching their heads over regulations. No wonder M-Sport and Hyundai isn't interested until the thing will be clear. More and more I wonder if they actually want to kill the WRC and blame everyone except them.
Want to kill? They have done it already.
And this is no news, that’s why Toyota is also testing with the weird rear wing cause they don’t know the final solution.
Unbelievable that we have this situation in 2026 in May.
This would have been understandable maybe in the 80s
this sounds absolutely insane, 36mm restrictor for new Rally 1 and 2,5bar max pressure all that`s neededQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Completely agree. So angry because there could be simple thing to do until they have clear vision and rules set to the stone (and promoter). No they keep digging the grave more and more and simply doesn't see that the whole thing will not be ready.. fucked up big this time (sorry for language, but total idiots, if you ask me)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Does anyone have any idea why there’s so much indecisiveness from the rule makers? Is it just total cluelessness about what to do, or are some parties pushing their own agenda?Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Mark my words, the whole thing will be dead on arrival once we have a new promoter with, hopefully, better ideas
I think the latter one.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
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Detuned? But plans to detune Rally2 too? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Thanks for asking the questions.
If this is correct, WRC27 sounds more and more like the death sentence that was the switch to EV for RallyCross
yes detuned to make them slower, if I get to ask more people around the service park of course I’ll let you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Rally3 top class too. lol.
I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just choosing not to believe it.
Could it be that they will detune rally2 to make wrc27 stand out? It is so hard to believe this... rally2 looks already slow compared to rally1, to make it even more slow seems crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Do you actually believe there will be one? It seems that even that will fall into the water as everything else. If not FIA will make sure it will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferranis
I have serious doubts as of now, to be absolutely honest. Seems that the FIA / current promoter destroyed so much worth, that no one with serious intentions wants it.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
It's so crazy, compare the hype for 2017 to .. whatever this is currently
Found this from Reddit: https://sapo.pt/artigo/rali-de-portu...07d4f9b5eb3a60
“The new promoter wants to do something closer to Formula 1, more show, wants the paddock itself to have all this. We are already building it. A village that has the top guests they want to have there. Next year we will have another official manufacturer, but I can't reveal it, it will be announced in June. They want to do another kind of rally, change the television broadcasts. We have already had a good conversation here with them, next year we will be the first rally of the championship that will give this smell. In Monte Carlo it's more complicated. They want to do Turini on Saturday night, but I don't believe it.”
I'm reading the rally will have a new sponsor? Are you Portuguese?
Where are you getting the sponsor from?
He talks about the service park for Rally Portugal moving to the city of Viseu next year (Exponor - the current service park in Matosinhos will be demolished and the construction work in the area will take at least 2 years).
Then he talks about what the new promoter wants to implement and a new manufacturer (european) entering the championship that will be announced in june.
Great news about new manufacturer. Looking forward for 2028 season, if actually they sort things out until then.
After talking solely about the rally: "For the year we will have another official brand, but I cannot reveal it, it will be announced now in June."Quote:
Originally Posted by pedro16
Why would he talk about not talking about a manufacturer, seems odd. Also not seeing where they are European.
I'll link the reddit topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/WRC/comment...ng_closer_to/?Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Here the OP says that "Regarding the new manufacturer, on another interview live on portuguese tv (can’t find the source, but I saw it live), he has said that it was an european manufacturer, but it wasn’t Lancia. "
-VAG group: Skoda, as they are the most active in rallying.
-Stellantis group: there is already Lancia, and they said it isn't them, so that left with Peugeot (already tease with some GTi models, and doing poor in WEC), Citroen (nothing on them, except they said they are looking at 2027 regs), unlikely it will go through the budget for 2 of their brands being involved in same sport
-Renault group: left Rally-Raid and WEC, in F1 doing very badly, so it's possible, also strong rumours about Prodrive already building a car for WRC27 regulations, and they have close connections to the brand
-Geely group: not actually European, but there was some rumours about Lynk&Co, maybe Volvo will take over, but I think not even a slight chance of that happening
-BMW group: highly unlikely
now you all figure it out, who is the most possible of what we know, that could be.
Skoda seems to be the most obvious one. They already have a long and successful history in rallying and good customer racing program. Eventually the current Fabia will be outdated in a few years and they have to replace it with something.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
There is also a question mark on M-sport. We can be 99% sure they also will be there 2028 onwards, but Fords involvement is unknown.
I've no time for some chump off Reddit. Luckily June is only next month.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Can't even assume this rumour if true even means a new WRC27 constructor. It could be Skoda with the Fabia or Hyundai with the i20.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
Like I said, the most possibility is Skoda, then Renault with Alpine or Dacia or even Renault itself (Prodrive driven, project). Then again Stellantis, but I don't believe they would found two simultaneously projects in the same sport. If they would have serious interest, they would back up Lancia as if they fund another of their brand for top class, it would shone a bad light on their Rally2 and it would kill the brand instantly.
There is also one other chance. That it will be nothing: 1. If the potential new buyer of promoter rights will back off, and 2. If they will back off if the regulations will not suit them even before we would know of whom we talking about.
All possibilities have equal chances of succeding or failing.
Is it all that much cost for many teams if they were doing one WRC27 team? The different brands are as good as different liveries.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Also, the new promoter is in it for 25 years. They wouldn't back off at this stage due to the regulations - which they are already privy to.