you havent got to be in Germany ,its very clear to see it from videos.
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Come on dimviii, we already know you’re not a RGT lover. Like Ucci asked, it’d be nice to get some comments from actual spectators on how the car looks and sounds at the stages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ivKYSS1R20
Who eas the driver of the Cayman?
On this video it doesn't look fast at all :(
Well it was a fast rollout as VIP not a competition position. They needed stage kms and the car at the finnish...
I liked it. Good looking car! Not the sound of a GT3 but fine enough for me.
Yep, Dumas is driving it and it’s also his team (RD Limited) that is running the car, alongside Porsche Motorsport. From the video it’s fair to say that it doesn’t look as good as on the tests (like it was said, as VIP car probably he wasn’t allowed to go flat out) but Porsche aim supposedly is not to win rally’s; they’re trying to provide an alternative rally car that can be fun to drive and watch; looking at our forum friends comments, the second purpose seems already achieved!
More pics, from Rallye Magazin (full gallery: https://www.rallye-magazin.de/index....9077179452f93f)
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3t..._5b751e537.jpg
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3t..._5b751e540.jpg
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3t..._5b751e55f.jpg
Alpine A110 GT4 has :
The base weight at 1080 kg, while the main modifications concern the engine -
1,8 turbo, maximum power climbing up to 360 hp
aerodynamics with the addition of a splitter and an imposing rear wing.
could be a very interesting contender in RGT.
Cayman RGT in comparison
Combustion engine 3800 ccm Flat-six engine, adopted from the Cayman GT4 Engine management Continental SDI 9 – engine control module Engine lubrication Integrated dry sump with Mobil1 motor oil Displacement 3,800 cm³ Output
Weight 1,300 kg 283 kW (385 hp)
I feel it's up to the FiA to do more to promote the R-GT class; because up until now it's been a damp squib. Maybe now Porsche are showing support for a possible customer programme the FiA might get the message. And when Porsche start showing interest in something, then you take notice. Interesting that Frank-Steffen Walliser was there on Friday....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQi7ncOxVHI
3.8 911 sound
without restrictor (GT3 Cup): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4RDbovpNHE
with (RGT): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-J8dJwbk9o
Yep, plus some of the wealthy rally drivers currently running R5 cars (and even WRC’s) without caring about wins or titles. And if Porsche starts a Rally Cup with good prizes, it wouldn’t be hard to also see young and talented drivers behind the wheel of a Cayman. Fingers crossed.
There is a quite popular bmw m-cup in belgium. There are also quite a few porsche's, we had 10 of them at the start of the tac rally.
And untill they decided to ban the drivers of they won a rally we also had some old wrc cars as an alternative to r5's.
If they can build them cheap, they will sell them. There is a market for powerful rwd cars.
But only is the price and running cost is different enough from an r5.
Cheap and (new) Porsche don´t mix ;)
A couple of years ago, a 911 SCRS (an ex-Prodrive unit) got a mind blowing bid of $1.100.000 at the Monterey auctions; owner refused, he was asking 1.4M…
Btw, Porsche Motorsport is still selling Cayman GT4 Clubsport racing units. They’ve announced a price around €120.000 when it was released, at the end of 2015. A road legal rally version would likely cost way more.
Well they are hoping for a cheaper price point than a new R5. They will also be using a factory PDK which will be a lot cheaper to run than a proper sequential such as a Sadev.. A lot cheaper.
The GT4 Clubsport for circuit racing is $165K USD. I'm assuming the rally version will be slightly higher due to underbody protection and all the other rally essentials which are not needed for circuit racing. Say it goes to $170-180k with service intervals much better than an R5 I'm sure gentlemen racers would look into it. The only problem is it would mainly be a tarmac rally car which makes an R5 a much better choice IMO, but that's me.
If they put a price around or below 120k € they will sell them. If they go higher teams will just buy a second hands r5.
Not going to happen. These will be $160-180 USD or $140+ euros.
Yep, that looks impossible: Abarth is selling the 124 Rally for €140.000. It’s hard to tell how much a Cayman Clubsport RGT would cost more than the circuit version (btw, there are two of them and the most expensive MR costs over €160k) but, most likely, it will be expensive to buy, although cheap to maintain. Yet the Cayman can still be a good deal if they launch it through a well promoted and big funded Porsche rally cup.
Cheap R5s are old or are getting old, newer, better and faster models are coming and in the end you can`t fight for a win with it, atleast in international or continental events. Add the maint. costs and not so tempting anymore...except for maybe gentlemen drivers and national championships.
More than the final price, what can make this car sell is the promotional package around it. Porsche Motorsport sells dozens of expensive racing cars every year as they organize several one make series all over the world, providing their costumers competitive and entertaining races with good media coverage and big money prizes. That’s why it makes sense to imagine they can try to do a similar job with the Cayman GTR, starting a Porsche rally cup alongside FIA RGT Cup events or others major rallys. That would be great.
guys to much ink for an already dead project.
Dont bother.
sorry mate but its the truth
Service intervals on an R5 car are insanely frequent and very expensive. A gentlemen racer might be interested in purchasing a RGT car especially when service costs are a fraction of the R5. That is the only thing the Cayman has going for it. Factory PDK gearbox and motor with rally goodies. It sounds great on paper, but ...
Congrats to Astier/Vauclare and Milano Racing; after being first RGT in Corsica, Rome and Zlin, they’ve won 2018 FIA RGT Cup on their Abarth 124 Rally.
https://scontent.fopo1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...0d&oe=5C2F0EEC
https://pt-pt.facebook.com/pg/abarth124rally/posts/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIA_R-GT_Cup
More than luck, the 124 Rally safety devices seems to be pretty well designed and working as projected. Btw, according to the news, Monarri is ok and after medical checks was discharged from hospital.
So Tempestini is really driving an Abarth 124 RGT through Rally Poland? Sounds crazy...
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...=192782&ct=599