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I think he made a late waiver to Portugal? With $$$ it can be done
He also won all stages on Corsica once you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Interesting fact; since Sardinia (including it) Neuville has only scored one more point that Mikkelsen in total (67/66)
For the shared third car, it is 55 points
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You mean including Sardinia. The numbers for others are:
Tanak 100
Ogier 70
Neuville 67
Mikkelsen 66
Hyundai Sordo (45 from 3)/Breen(10 from 2) = 55
Lappi 49
Latvala 46
Meeke 42
Suninen 39
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...r-two-new-cars
This explains Mikkelsen and Bouffier testing the i20 R5 lately. They're doing major development work for the car in order to release an update package for the start of 2020, and a completely new car based on the new i20 model in the summer of 2020. Adamo also hopes to find the budget for a factory team entry in WRC2 2020.
one announcement out but not about Tänak https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/sta...409780736?s=20
Tarmac testing for Loeb because of the lack of tarmac pace in Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Note that this will be his 4th tarmac rally in the car this year, excluding Monte.
Not sure how much it helps though, cause again in Spain he would come to the stage end thinking it would be a good time only to see he is the last WRC. Same thing happened as early as in Monte on Sunday.
How do you then judge improvements if there is no other WRC to compare with?
They don’t have other WRC cars when they test and they value testing enough, so not having other cars still allows them to develop.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Between Corsica and Spain Loeb did 2 tarmac rallies like that. His speed relative to others seemingly didn't change.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
You do first some stages with the old setup and then you change in the new parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Therefore they need to test more. Simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
He did 3 scratches in spain, as much as sordo and more than ogier. Only neuville and tanak did better.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
So the speed still is in there somewhere, but he just can't seem to get it out on a reliable continuous base.
They have the telemetry data, so they should be able to know perfectly where and why he loses time.
He "feels" it's fast but the time relative to others doesn't reflect it. When there is nobody to compare with only yourself, then you can only compare first and second passes, which is kind of hard as there is always a difference between them on a normal rally. (if road gets polluted it's slower, otherwise it's faster because of "knowing" the conditions of the stage)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
"Feeling" not matching results is something totally new for Loeb on tarmac, just like it was for Mikkelsen last year.
On a test where you run same road multiple times it's easy to measure difference (though obviously it has own issues due to finetuning the setup to that particular section). But obviously the big advantage of "free" test days on rally are important here.
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We are talking about Tarmac, on tarmac he was nowhere near where he should be. With one 3rd time as best, then 5.,6., 2x7., 2x8., 3x9. and 10..Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Will you all consider that he is marketing tool for Hyundai? Maybe he just enjoys driving that thing in various tarmac events
He is a great carbyilder nevertheless...
Today is the day?
I have a feeling they won’t announce it because of all the fuss around it.
Today is HalloweenQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
even better, i hope to see Adamo in a Halloween costume on the announcement picture.
Dressed as Tommi?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
https://i.imgur.com/IfKxFG1.jpg
There you go! Happy halloween, everyone!
How does one dress like Tommi?Quote:
Originally Posted by tr4m
I'm guessing today too:
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/sta...178648576?s=20
The secret really isn't in the dressing part. You have to have drinked a lot of alcohol and you face must be as red as a tomato. Sure, wearing TGR clothes will help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
https://i.imgur.com/hCmUqHC.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Like that.
Adamo is on a mission... Makes you wonder what Hyundai would have achieved if he would have replaced the previous French guy (can't remember his name) earlier.
Btw. about the "discussions" with Mikkelsen and Breen.
It looks kind of obvious that they would offer to one (or maybe both of them ) starts at rallies that Loeb and Sordo won't do or are not good at (Sweden, Finland, GB) combined with some R5 development and rallies.
Mikkelsen certainly will try to get something else, while Breen might be more inclined to say yes.
What if Breen moves on to Toyota?
That is off course possible, but imo Breen is definitely behind Ogier, Mikkelsen, Evans and Suninen on the list of drivers that Toyota would want.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
To me it seems like Adamo is trying to prevent them from going to Toyota by stringing them along. This could leave Toyota with Paddon and maybe Ostberg as their only real options besides Latvala and Meeke.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
so, this team next year...
- 2 world champions
- 10 world titles
- 105 rally victories
- 230 podiums
and counting because Australia is still ahead.
What are your speculations, is every HWRT driver allowed to win on 2020? Or if for some reason e.g. Thierry or Ott would need to move forward in results, it is done right from the beginning of 2020?
there will be fireworks
Neither of the two would be willing to move away from the other I'm sure. Unless it comes to the end of the season and either is too far away to be able to win the title. It'll be interesting..
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im definitely predicting that Neuville will be faster in the first rallies...he has been in the team since day 1 and knows the car. (i guess Ott gets to test it for like 2-3 days before Monte)
However, Ott with his knowledge from M-sport and Toyota and being a very good car developer will sort out the car sooner than later if it doesnt suit him in the beginning.
Lets not forget that Ott adapted to Toyota almost instantly and had great pace with it since Monte. I guess that adapting with Hyundai wouldnt be too bad also.
Νeuville has to fix this thing that he is slow at first day/stages while he is still searching his setup/confidence with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Tanak havent got such problems at least with Yaris
Meeke has also adapted to Toyota "instantly" so that's 2 out of 2 drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oraamat
While at Hyundai neither Loeb nor Mikkelsen could make the car work on tarmac even after 4+ rallies each. So that's 0/2.
Some challenge coming for Tanak on tarmac then. Unless they start fundamentally changing the tarmac car. Which is possible if the WC demands it.
I was thinking the same. All drivers have had great pace on Yaris from the first rallies they did with it. In contrast the tarmac pace difference of Mikkelsen and Loeb from C3 to i20 is alarming. And at the same time, Neuville can still win rallies with it.
Don't forget with the newly (& partially) introduced rotation system, next year will only have 2 pure tarmac events....so won't be as demanding as this year....Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight