Then as long as it stays like this this comment sums it up for me as well:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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Originally Posted by Morte66
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Then as long as it stays like this this comment sums it up for me as well:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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Originally Posted by Morte66
He came 7th (really 6th before giving the place to Neuville) out of 8 WRC finishers.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
But he did do the job expected of him, i.e finish without incident.
I think he has put himself solidly in place on the list of drivers who will be considered next year, by any team that wants a reliable finisher.
Do not look the difference behind Ott; if Ott would push like others did, he would at least 90 sec ahaed...100% sure. Ott was on a sunday drive, read the comment from EstWRC who was spectating....Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
actually you were there!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
exactly, he is a perfect number two in the teamQuote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
i mean, it was his FIRST WRC rally in 9 months being with FIRST time with a Hyundai what is known not to be a good car on Rally Finland and he did absolutely brilliantly, faster than Neuville who has been forever in the team.
There was a pretty good head wind at the powerstage jump, maybe that created up lift when they came off the jump like it does on a ski jump?
Don't think it would had been 90+ seconds, unless others had issues. Already based on the power stage, he was only 0,7 faster than Neuville who was not the biggest threat during the rally. The only question would had been, who would had survived the maximum attack approach on the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Nobody is going to hire him as "perfect number two" based on one rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Actually in this case being longer in the team likely wasn't really an advantage. With the upgrades the I20 turns quite different than before and Neuville had one day test mostly in rain, so suddenly the car was different than it has been for a long time.Quote:
.. faster than Neuville who has been forever in the team.
The C3 has looked scary in the air for a few years. Does the rear wing have some passive aero that depends on speed? The car takes off flat but as it goes through the air (and slows down with drag) something tips it up as if a pilot was pulling back on the controls after a while. At similar speeds on smaller jumps it seems fine.
A bit off topic and a bit late but here is a crash course to spelling the stage names right...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bzsrYyhpX4
It was very cold during the rally. The coldest rally Finland since I’ve been there from 2001.
I just published my rally Finland 2019 photo gallery:
https://www.ilkansivu.net/en/photos/...y-finland-2019
There are photos about 7 special stages and the podium ceremony.
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There's also an aero issue still to be resolved with the C3 R5 . This lead to Østberg not entering Rally Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
To be honest I find this his reasoning a bit cheap. By raw speed he was the fastest WRC2 driver nearly everywhere and it was only his mistakes what prevented him from winning the events. He would be fast in Finland too, maybe not as fast as Rovanperä but for sure fast enough to fight for the podium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Also pretty wise tactics not to drive against Rovanperä in Finland. Rovanperä has now driven seven events, Østberg only five. Østberg can get easier wins later in the season (with Kalle not starting).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
EDIT: I was wrong, drivers can drive all events they want, eight best count, so it's likely that Kalle will do most of the remaining rallies.
I don't think so. Just because it looks like a sunday drive doesn't mean he's not close to the maximum speed possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
In contrary, wilder and more spectacular driving is usually slower and pushing beyond whats comfortable creates errors.
Ott himself said that he was pushed to the max. No need to doubt his words. The competitors have stepped up their game. That's his words.
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Yeah that is a nice spot. I finished the session there this year, having worked my way up the 'straight' prior to this, but stood on the inside as I didn't fancy getting shot blasted on the outside! I was there last year too, when it seemed less busy down this way. I think more people ventured west beyond the jump this year, having seen the onboards from last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
So just to add my experience. Yep, it was a really great this year. Personally, I much preferred the weather this year. It made walking around much nicer! Plus having a coat/pockets meant I didn't have to lug a bag about. I have to admit I was shivering waiting for the cars to arrive some of those mornings though! I did Shakedown, Urria, Kakaristo, Ruuhimäki and went to the podium ceremony. One of the highlights for me was on Urria at Hirvonen's jump for SS4. I got a clear view from near the crossing after the jump. Before the stage started, I couldn't believe it when the Solberg family turned up and stood right behind me! Petter, Oliver, Pernilla and Oscar! I got to talk to Oscar Solberg (seemed surprised I knew who he was! :D ) about his rallying and he talked about Henning's experience with the new Fabia. I also had a quick chat (I didn't want to bother any of them too much) with Petter about Rally GB. It was nice to be able to thank him for doing it in person! I have to admit that I took the chance to have a picture with Petter and another later with Oliver and Oscar together, which I was going to do as a selfie but Petter offered to take it for me! That alone was pretty surreal/amusing, looking at Petter taking my picture! :D The atmosphere was surprisingly relaxed (that's Scandinavians for you though!) considering their presence in the crowd and they were really friendly. A great memory for me.
Otherwise, I did a 50/50 mix of public 'tourist' areas and nice spots off the beaten track, so to speak. Considering I had done less preparation than I'd have liked to, I was happy with the spots I ended up in and had a great time overall. I think I'll have to go again next year now... I did it as a one off last year, but it's a very addictive event!
I'll try and add some photos below...
Small gallery:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/An8tssrJiv5ZHpD6A
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2K...=w1734-h975-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TM...=w1734-h975-no
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Sequence in the gallery. Not many moving shots as my phone camera is up to anything special.
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Another Neste Rally Finland is done. This year we were out with a sofa which was very useful on powerstage first pass , because weather was so cold.
We were on Harju first pass , then we were moving to Moksi stage where we stayed night and two passes. When Moksi was done we set our target with sofa to Päijala stage to see this faimous corner(1.7km from our camp) where every year is crashes and this corner didn't let our hopes down. After first pass on Päijala we moved sofa back to camp and traveled to Ruuhimäki stages( we were learned from last year that after second passs its impossible to get out from päijala). Around 23 o'clock we moved our sofa from camp to tribune to be ready for powerstage - which was big mistake(rain) . After moving sofa to tribune then we get our blanket and sleeping bags and that load covering plastic to protect our sofa and ourselfs from rain. Night was not so cold to sleep almost open sky but before ruuhimäki first pass weather changed and wind was blowing and temperature dropped tramaticaly. Now we were very glad to have sleeping bags and cover with along us to keep us warm. Thats was nice weekend and hopefully not the last one with traveling with sofa along the rally stages
I add some pictures to keep some extreme fans awake and i am very thankful when somebody can share to me some pictures from our journey with sofa - because we didnt saved all that.
https://www.upload.ee/image/10322467/moksi.png
https://www.upload.ee/image/10322455/paijala.png
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^^^haha nice one guys!
I don't know how it was measured, whether it was overall or just on a single stage, but I overheard some talk that this weekend was the closest that R2s have ever been to the pace of the WRC cars. A quick look makes me think it could be in the overall result?
I hope you brought the sofa back home.
For sure not. I made a very quick check (only Rally Finland) and they were closer two or three times in the overall time difference (that depends on the route length) and even more times in difference in seconds per kilometer. The difference was smallest in the first year of 1.6T cars in 2011 (logically) and massively smaller than this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
2019 1st R2 +24:36,9 +4,80 s/km
2011 1st R2 +19:01,4 +3,63 s/km
Four years after our last visit and had one of the best rallies ever. Great event. We did 4 stages on Friday, 4 on Saturday and 2 on Sunday.
So, so fast everywhere, really amazing. Joost couldn't make it, but already promised to try and come next year haha.
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Some more at our Facebook page: http://facebook.com/rallymedia ! Back next year for sure!
Sofa is back in home with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
That's good. I saw a picture of you and your sofa on Sunday night at Ruuhimäki finish. You have dedication :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by reff92
A bit late, but huge congrats to Tanak/Jarveoja and Toyota for the win and hat off for Breen/Nagle; I didn't imagine Breen would be able to be so fast and consistent on his first outing with the i20. Well done!
lol
so good to see happy and funny Lappi back again
flaaaaaaaaaattttttt-oouuuuuuutttttttt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENX_...RI5oqQUzIo6Z6c
amazing video!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
:eek: NOT is back??? :eek:
My fifth time in Finland but first with these new cars. Really something special.
Some photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/949985...57710163208771
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7be3abb9_c.jpg1 by Richard Simpson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7cb49aa8_c.jpg2 by Richard Simpson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6a7786d7_c.jpg5 by Richard Simpson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...65df63be_c.jpg9 by Richard Simpson, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...68cc7a22_c.jpg6 by Richard Simpson, on Flickr
My friend's photo gallery from the event: https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rally+Finland+2019/
https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Ra...pg?img=smaller
https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Ra...pg?img=smaller
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https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Ra...pg?img=smaller
more behind the scenes of shakedown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuad9-71_Bs
Conspiracy theory:Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Check out the long look Ogier gives to Tänak's rear wing then goes to his car and looks at his. He probably knew already at that point!
has this one been here ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8SBZrdoRA
the more i watch these Rally Finland videos the more i come to conclusion we need more these fast rallies into calendar. One is not enough (ok two with Sweden), bring Poland back or add Estonian in or please FIA search some other country with these kind of fast roads.
amazing!
Australia 2017 was faster than Sweden 2018. But I agree, there should be something to bridge the gap between Finland and next fastest events, now Finland is like 10% faster than others. Although Rally Estonia had outrageously fast stages, there were also very slow stages so the total average speed was slower than Rally Finland.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I know this rally is only over but when do they release proposed dates for 2020? Wouldn't mind getting Accomadation booked early
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