Betting on Evans now.
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Betting on Evans now.
He drove a Neuville based carQuote:
Originally Posted by Portimao
Great drive by Suninen here.
Tänak was fast in Catalunya and Corsica on the Yaris. And he won Germany three times (a rally with low/varying grip).Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It's true that today he's just cruising and trying to secure manu points and maybe save tyres for power stage.
Ogier crash is freak.
What was Ogier thinking here, completely his fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Great time by Bulacia, but Mikkelsen on fire now
Mikkelsen faster than Tanak O_o
Mikkelsen preparing for power stage:)
Mikkelsen is only fast when he is on TV :D
Great drive anyway!
Yes fast but he was even struggling with the Toyota in Corsica, i especially remember 2018 friday, when he was as lost as this weekend basically and lost 44 seconds after friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Something does click for him on rally germany but if you look his record on other tarmac rallies he hasnt been as fast on those ones as on rally germany.
But i agree im also disappointed with him this weekend, didnt expect to win but fight for podium but it is what it is sometimes.
So, Suninen doesn't have a 10 sec penalty?
Maybe silly question, but could Seb get time penalties for that road accident? Completely his fault by the looks of it
i have the same question plus i think after the rally the car is controlled and if they do find something they can exclude him?Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Yesterday he said it was organizer’s mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
It was removed yesterday...Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by er88
Ok, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
If anything he gets a fine. I remember he got a fine for taking a roundabout the wrong way in Poland 2017 for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Thanks, good for himQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
In case this BMW was overspeeding, I think it's not Ogier's fault. In the moment he started line-change, it was clear road behind him on that line.
2018 Friday seemed to be about finding settings but in 2019 he would have won without that punctureQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I think he (Ogier) wanted to stop on that bus-stop, but the car was coming up at that moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Very bad time for Ingram on this one, what happened to him?
Ingram: "stopped in stage, continu"
Really? Just because you are in a rally car that doesn’t mean road rules don’t apply. You are supposed to use blinkers and make sure the other lane is clear before doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
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as it is now
Evans ............ 56 pts
Neuville .......... 50 pts
Ogier .............. 49 pts
Tanak ............. 39 pts
Rovanpera ...... 39 pts
if Ogier finish 3rd
Evans ........... 56 pts
Neuville ........ 53 pts
Ogier ............ 46 pts
Tanak ............ 39 pts
Rovanpera .... 39 pts
I completely agree, I don't think it's Ogier's fault. Overtaking from the right (and this isn't UK-Australia,South Africa, Cyprus roads), don't know what that BMW was thinking but it denied Ogier any chance of taking the victory here.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Of course. And BMW wasn't speeding, that was wide multilane avenue, not some small two way road.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrolhead49
I don’t agree at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Definitely Ogiers fault in my eyes
Overtaking from the right is allowed in city driving in most countries (here for sure). It's not even called overtaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
The other guy didn't drive 50 km/h, that's quite sure. Still Ogier's mistake.
road rules have a point that all drivers are stick to the rules and other will expect that. So if it clear to 50kph road- it's ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrolhead49
Think it's pointless to point fingers at anyone in that accident as both sides played a role that in the end caused the accident.
Ok, I didn't know that, here it's illegal to overtake from the right no matter if you're inside the city or outside. I accept that he didn't over-speed but he still did try to go faster than Ogier; Also we shouldn't forget, with all that Aero, Ogier has a lot of blind spots. The only thing Ogier did wrong was not indicating with his indicators. In any case, when you see a rally car on the road, you don't try to outmaneuver it. Not the first time this happens (probably isn't the last as well), reminds of before shakedown(?) back in Sweden 2005 with Petter Solberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's also very difficult to see something with the rearview mirrors they have...
The championship will be very very very tight this year until the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
See how much the zero from Croatia costs for Kalle and the same goes for Ott with zero from Monte.
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The way how I see it is that although the BWM guy was speeding, then Ogier can't change lanes and then turn directly to the bus stop pocket to do whatever. You can hear from the sound that Ogier accelerates, changes lanes and then stops. Even if BMW was doing normal speed, then this accident would happened. Had Ogier continued with normal speed, then BMW guy would have had time to decelerate but if you completely stop, then there is no chance.
That's the basic thing of all and which makes me angry on the roads all the time. The very first thing of being safe in traffic is to be predictable. And that starts with clearly giving others in advance an idea what you are going to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Crossing over two lanes to the right is by default a potentially dangerous situation and you always have to be very careful when you do that. Especially if you don't see well behind...
Exactly and as a road-car you should consider that when trying to overtake or whatever that BMW was trying to do. Not taking away from the fact that Ogier didn't use his indicators, but as a road user you should always be alert, especially with rally cars running around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
True, here they love overtaking from the right (although it's illegal) but that's what happens when the police is more worried about filling their pockets with speeding tickets (from speed cameras) than the actual safety of road users, I guess that's why people here hate indicating all the time, so you really have to guess what's a driver going to do next. But we're really off-topic here, in any case, that's Ogier's win, gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek