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7th October 2018, 12:02
steve.mandzij

Quote:

Originally Posted by mknight

From the above link: "Police say the road is likely to remain closed until late this afternoon whilst emergency services assist with the accident."

Sounds like cancellation to me.

Oh fucks' sake... I hope I haven't woken up for nothing
7th October 2018, 12:04
KKS

as incident was at the end of stage - they can just move finish

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do5vOnxXgAIVSUO.jpg
7th October 2018, 12:04
Fast Eddie WRC

Sounds serious as an air ambulance is required.

As well as being terrible for those involved it will be bad for the organisers and their hopes of showing the area to the world on TV.
7th October 2018, 12:06
Slazwierder

On Rtbf they told that they will shorten the stage +/-650m
7th October 2018, 12:08
HarriK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slazwierder

On Rtbf they told that they will shorten the stage +/-650m

I dont think that is possible to do fast.
7th October 2018, 12:10
deephouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Sounds serious as an air ambulance is required.

As well as being terrible for those involved it will be bad for the organisers and their hopes of showing the area to the world on TV.

You would love that right...To cancel the stage.
7th October 2018, 12:10
Tarmop

Quote:

Originally Posted by mknight

You know that very well, nosedive to break the radiator.

Latvala, Ogier and Lappi who were top 3 on the stage all lifted off or braked before the jump. He didn't.

"Car let him down"

You mean the place, where he was fighting with the top guys, only one who lifted, was Lappi, and they had gone over it for 3 times already? You are always such a good driver in theory, you should be there and showing them. Except real cars don`t handle like in GTA or something like that.
7th October 2018, 12:12
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

You mean the place, where he was fighting with the top guys, no one lifted, like him the previous 3(?) times? You are always such a good driver in theory, you should be there and showing them.

Go to the onboard, watch. All 3 others lift (no onboard for Neuville available), he doesn't. His car doesn't survive the nosedive, other cars don't nosedive at all.

That's facts. All this random insults you add don't change it.

EDIT: Even Østberg is on the brakes before the jump.
7th October 2018, 12:15
Tarmop

They aren`t insults, its what you always say, how it would be so easy to change the line going over 100 kph on loose gravel in something like 10-20 meters. Most of the time mathematically impossible, not to mention how it would result in a bigger crash due to physics.
7th October 2018, 12:16
jparker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

You mean the place, where he was fighting with the top guys, only one who lifted, was Lappi, and they had gone over it for 3 times already? You are always such a good driver in theory, you should be there and showing them. Except real cars don`t handle like in GTA or something like that.

Well, the facts are facts. Only Tanak has retiremens like this.
7th October 2018, 12:20
flykas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

They aren`t insults, its what you always say, how it would be so easy to change the line going over 100 kph on loose gravel in something like 10-20 meters. Most of the time mathematically impossible, not to mention how it would result in a bigger crash due to physics.

I guess this is where experience comes into play.
7th October 2018, 12:21
Tarmop

I just can`t see, how you can put those radiators on the driver. Maybe you lack rallying experience as a driver?
7th October 2018, 12:22
Fast Eddie WRC

UPDATE: The intention is now to run SS23 Great Orme Llandudno 2 for the top competitors at 1330.
7th October 2018, 12:22
sonnybobiche

How is it possible that I get the information from this forum before I hear it on the live TV coverage?
7th October 2018, 12:25
PLuto

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonnybobiche

How is it possible that I get the information from this forum before I hear it on the live TV coverage?

Better sources? ;-)
7th October 2018, 12:25
Fast Eddie WRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by deephouse

You would love that right...To cancel the stage.

Wrong.
7th October 2018, 12:26
flykas

Well it is clearly up to the driver to prevent excessive nosedive and also if it was the place where others lifted and he didn't that seems logical to me.
7th October 2018, 12:27
MrJan

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonnybobiche

How is it possible that I get the information from this forum before I hear it on the live TV coverage?

Loads of places are ahead of TV coverage. Radio chatter, Twitter people at the event etc.
7th October 2018, 12:29
Tarmop

Quote:

Originally Posted by flykas

Well it is clearly up to the driver to prevent excessive nosedive and also if it was the place where others lifted and he didn't that seems logical to me.

Like Neuville, who landed even worse and after whom came Tänak as a third driver on the road? Remember, that Tänak warned his teammates and others also learned about it from alllive for instance.
7th October 2018, 12:29
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

I just can`t see, how you can put those radiators on the driver. Maybe you lack rallying experience as a driver?

Maybe Ogier that braked on the same Sardinia jump lacks experience as a driver you mean? + Latvala, Lappi and Østberg. Neuville onboard is not on.
7th October 2018, 12:29
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonnybobiche

How is it possible that I get the information from this forum before I hear it on the live TV coverage?

Cuz a TV it's rainbow country where all OK. And forum it's true truth :)
7th October 2018, 12:31
Tarmop

Quote:

Originally Posted by mknight

Maybe Ogier that braked on the same Sardinia jump lacks experience as a driver you mean? + Latvala, Lappi and Østberg. Neuville onboard is not on.

Lappi said, he lifted, Latvala said, that he was warned by Tänak just after his incident there. That i agree.
7th October 2018, 12:33
itix

Nose dive or not, this can relatively simply be rectified with a forward facing lip that is bent upwards so that it doesn't dig into the gravel.
If there is space for it however is a different question.

Bend the lip upwards and overlap it with the underside of the bumper. Even if the bumper gets damaged you have a secondary barrier and you still retain a flat floor while the bumper is intact.
7th October 2018, 12:33
KKS

New finish line
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do52TmfW4AASUCV.jpg
7th October 2018, 12:34
dimviii

SUN 13:00 - SS23
Only the top 14 cars will tackle the stage.
7th October 2018, 12:35
jparker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

I just can`t see, how you can put those radiators on the driver. Maybe you lack rallying experience as a driver?

You are lacking experience understanding what other say. Nobody denies the car has an issue, landings like that should not brake the car. Having said that, if one is aware of this, he should try to avoid nose down landing.
7th October 2018, 12:36
flykas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

Like Neuville, who landed even worse and after whom came Tänak as a third driver on the road?

Neuvill's landing wasn't worse, because you can see that Toyota's front even bounced back into air after the impact, and in Neuvill's case it wasn't so much into the front of the car, but yeah I agree, I wouldn't say that he prevented it because of his skill, just luck and different car.
7th October 2018, 12:36
PLuto

Stage will start at 13:30, route will be shortened for 650 m and only top 14 crews will go through stage.
7th October 2018, 12:36
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarmop

Like Neuville, who landed even worse and after whom came Tänak as a third driver on the road? Remember, that Tänak warned his teammates and others also learned about it from alllive for instance.

They ran the jump on the shakedown and Tänak nearly did the same then
https://youtu.be/Me9_qpG5xNI?t=75
7th October 2018, 12:41
Fast Eddie WRC

Al least tv are showing the stage from this morning for all to see the Gt Orme Llandudno. :)
7th October 2018, 12:55
Essaj

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLuto

Stage will start at 13:30, route will be shortened for 650 m and only top 14 crews will go through stage.

What if lets say Pontus retires on the stage, guys who wont complete the stage will still gain a position?
7th October 2018, 12:56
Rallyper

New starting time on SS23 is 14:45 CET got it from All Live ...
7th October 2018, 12:56
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Essaj

What if lets say Pontus retires on the stage, guys who wont complete the stage will still gain a position?

The rest will get a notional time, so yes.
7th October 2018, 12:56
Fast Eddie WRC

UK TV (Ch5) are staying with the live coverage. Hope other countries do the same.
7th October 2018, 13:00
MrJan

I like Tommi. He knows that it's a tall order for JML to take the winner and even had a wry smile as he said that Ogier probably has it sorted.
7th October 2018, 13:01
Fast Eddie WRC

13.45 start now. Also seems to be raining a bit...
7th October 2018, 13:03
KKS

Imagine if Power Stage was a last stage....
7th October 2018, 13:06
PLuto

Stage will start at 14:00.
7th October 2018, 13:09
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLuto

Stage will start at 14:00.

this day? :D
7th October 2018, 13:17
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLuto

Stage will start at 14:00.

Your sources for sure are better than All Live ... ;)

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