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Welcome to 2008 Jenson!
You're MEAN!!! :angryfire
Yikes. Ricciardo is already on his second engine... and they only get four this season. I don't know if the one that they took out is fixable, but that's not a good way to be starting the season.
[edit] and now he's stopped on track with the second engine installed after only a few laps. These guys are not going to be happy with Renault at all. Hope they can fix it quickly or Ric is going to miss qualifying for his home grand prix.
sadly, they say that one is done and dusted. KaputQuote:
Originally Posted by Duncan
So he is down to 3 engines for the entire season
But i'm sure they will take a penalty and get a 4th one going.
wow!
mclaren are at the back of the grid, purely on lack of performance.
This is disappointing for Honda
I guess picking up where they left off in 2009
is it the design, the engine?
yikes!
my prediction for qualy
1. hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Bottas
4. Vettel
5. Massa
6. Kimi
7. Verstappen
8. SDainz
9. Grosjean
10. Hulkenberg
damn so much for my predictions. Vestappen and Hulkenberg didn't make it
but on the bright side. Lotus is looking good!
Good.:up: The season has started!
Others aren't much of a shock except McLaren even worse than expected, but both Red Bull and Toro Rosso raise a few eyebrows. So, Red Bull is about a match to STR? WTF? They really can't complain about the underpowered Renault PU either if that's the case. Maybe Red Bull should promote chief designer James Key into their team.
Oh and one more thing. I don't want to hear any more hype about McLaren, Honda, or anybody there. Or that McLaren is a top team. For third straight year they are nothing more than a midfield team. They are not even comparable to Ferrari, who has got a lot of flack. At best McLaren is comparable to Toyota and BAR-Honda in their worse days.
All McLaren has left is history and "image". Depth in the team is missing completely and has been for a few years. They even lack title sponsorship. And I am not surprised big sponsors are not really after McLaren to sign deals!
McLaren is like Williams was for a long time (2005-2013). Ok, Williams climbed out of it for now, but look it took a whole decade!
There are news reporta, that Bottas may even miss the race due to backproblems. Not good
I think I'll finally give in and do a Henners on 2015...
26 Euros for the app
no excitement at the front (Ham)
no excitement at the back (Alonso :p)
sod the live viewing... I won't even set the alarm for Carletes :( :mark:
Nothing truly shocking about the qualifying session, except that McLaren finished dead last.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...9_634x1307.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by COD
What a great idea! I hope she gets a start if Bottas cant.
McLaren does have something else: Honda's chequebook. Money talks... eventually. For Honda's sake, I hope that this time round their investment pays off before they take their name off the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
McSod all! :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
I'd like to see her on the podium..... necked as a j-bird :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFamousEccles
:sailor: boo hoo :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Wow. Botas' hair sure grew out over the winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Here's something odd:Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
McLaren boss Eric Boullier says that .... that conservative engine settings are part of the reason for the team's poor showing today.
Which doesn't seem to agree with...........
"There is no such thing in modern F1 that you don't turn the engine on completely." Toto Wolfe
Also, we have heard all winter that you can't tell who has what from testing, but qualifying shook out exactly like testing suggested it would!
Also, we thought we might have 20 cars, which went out thwe window with Manor not running, and then we thought we might have 176 if Sauber got their equipment seized. Now it turns out we might have 17 because Williams is unsure if Botas can race tomorrow.
Alonso couldn't have picked a better race to sit out. The McLarens are slow and unreliable. Has a slow and unreliable car ever won anything?
It would be wrong of me to say I'd be immensely amused if this turned out to be a disaster for Ron Dennis, but it's true. I would be immensely amused if this turned out to be a disaster for Ron Dennis. The man is the very clinical definition of a psychopath.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Curses! Our plan has been foiled! On to phase 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
We WILL win races! Because... We are MCLAREN!!
I'll give every member on this forum 1,000.00 USD if McLaren fails to podium this season!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjbetty
10:00 am PDT, and time for a little hair of the dawg that bit me:
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I'm not so sure I would bet the house against McLaren and Honda at this point. Remembering this time last year, everyone but Mercedes could hardly keep the cars running, which is about where McLaren is right now after about the same amount of testing and practice.
They will get it right, but it sure isn't going to be this weekend. At best this will be an extended test for them, if they can keep the things together that long, that is.
I will remember this Taz just in case. :dog:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
I'm not counting my money just yet.
Hamilton seems to have this under control this weekend. People seemed to think on Medium tyres Mercedes had lost some of its advantage, but in Quali it appeared as big as ever.
Good lap from Hamilton.
Mclaren suck, but I reckon Taz could be right and we could see them move forward over the season.
As for Bottas..... After quali a sub driver cannot come in can they? People calling for Susie Wolff to step in are going to be disappointed I would think.
As far as I remember a driver can't be replaced after starting qualifying.
Could she not start from the pit at least? What is the meaning of them third drivers then!
Wasn't she like six seconds off the pace in Barcelona?
That, and does she even have a super license?
From what I've read, and heard on the broadcast, Bollier stated quite emphatically that it wasn't the "zero packaging" but "the ancillaries." were what was causing them to lose track time, so it's a non aero induced prob' but just getting everything to work at once, that is kind of what I got out of it, His English is good, but that freakin' accent seriously affects the proper english enunciation. But I'll cut him some slack, in the interview I saw with the Sky bros. Bollier was like twice as tall as both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
He's A Big Dawg !:vampire:
I dont think so, otherwise in the past people injured in qualifying would have been replaced rather than a car less start.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Maybe the rules have changed. I dont know
So let's see, how the race turns out. Actually I am thinking Räikkönen might beat Vettel here. He is usually relatively stronger in race than in qualifying and qualified very close to Seb. Also won in 2013 from 7th on the grid.
I think it really depends on the start., Kimi on the clean side,. If this car is really suited to Kimi's style, that in and of itself only means to me that it is also probably well suited to Seb, as he likes a similar setup. But If the car is really an Allison special, than Kimi could be in with a shout. If anyone could put the as*-whippin' he got from his teammate last season behind him it is Ice. I wish him good luck, but I'll bet 1,000.00 USD to any and all members that when they add the points up at the end of the year Seb will have more, but I could be wrong.
Are they really as far behind as everyone is saying?
Button managed a 1.31.422 in the Mclaren Honda
Last year in Q1 he managed a 1.31.396 in the McLaren Mercedes.
Assuming that the chassis is better than last years, and ignoring different track conditions/tyres, considering the amount of mileage they have done they are exactly where you'd expect them to be.
In terms of potential of the package, they might actually be in a better position than the Renault powered teams. They have gone backwards in some aspects.
Patience lads.
Mark Webber's been part of the local broadcast over here. He's been outstanding, and made Alan Jones completely irrelevant. Which may not surprise. The insight has been outstanding.
I thought the opposite. Webber, while obviously knowledgeable, is a poor commentator. He struggles to coherently express his thoughts, talks too much when he should shut up, repeats himself too often (I lost count of the times he said the word "brutal") and gets halfway through a sentence before realising he has nowhere to go with it. He can certainly add something to the broadcast but needs to be used in much smaller doses than he is being used at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman racer
His positives outweigh his weaknesses. He's carrying the broadcast. And I didn't even like him as a driver.
Thought i read a testing analysis, that suggested that RAI has shown better racepace than VET. Think it was by an average of .4 seconds....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
I was actually surprised that he got so close during the final laps of qualy
Jesus. These blokes disbelieving of Raikkonen! Last year was only one **** year. He was extraordinary for the previous two.