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Ford Fiesta Rally 2 can still win rallies.
Estonian Romet Jurgensson wins the second round of British championship, Kielder Carlisle Stages 2025:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/9...e-stages-2025/
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/957234/
Garry Jennings wins the second round of Motorsport UK Asphalt championship, Manx Rally 2025:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/9...nx-rally-2025/
Yes, with a top driver it's still quite possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Jon Armstrong has also set good times in Ireland and ERC in his Fiesta.
Citroen and Skoda have been forced to offer prizes to take more sales and Hyundai to make big upgrades with stars like Paddon and Lefebvre on development.
so fun! ah mate i want to see him getting some wins in ercQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Pulling this into right thread...
None of these 'prizes' from Manufacturers are from the goodness of their heart. They get something too. In this case hoping for more sales of their Cars by teams/drivers seeing a chance to win discounts. Citroen Ireland have a similar scheme for Citroen Rally2 drivers, in that case bringing extra publicity to the brand by there being more Citroens on the events.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
Just 2 weeks ago young Estonian was the hero of the day. But life is full of ups and downs. On Canary Islands he crashed on the very first stage:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
https://www.ewrc-results.com/media/9...ain-2025/4530/
Rumours about Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 test by Bonato.
same rumor from italyQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
He posted a picture with an Ypsilon, but I think it might have been the newly announced Rally-6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Not related.
Btw, FIA doesn't allow them to use Rally6 designation. I don't know why they insist (Lancia and Renault).
The cars are:
Lancia Ypsilon HF Racing
Peugeot 208 Racing
Renault Clio FR6
Opel Corsa FR6
i guess it's because fr6 led to rally6 easily, and is good to mark the difference from rally5/4 (lancia press is all about the rally4 comparison).Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
and maybe also to nudge a bit to have an international recognition from fia (especially with a new top of the pyramid incoming)
Why they didn't do them as Rally5-Kit?
Not interested in that, car only exists as a electric vehicle, not with an ICE engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
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No no.
Rally5-Kit is like the 208 and Corsa that race in Spain Volant RACC cup.
NEW e-Rally5 is other thing.
because they want to sell the car!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Imo it's easier to sell a car with an international homologation than one with a national homologation.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
If they're aimed at national competition, going through FIA paperwork could add unnecessary €€€s to the cost/price.
not necessarily. look at france fr6 (that basically is the reference for this...). they're aiming to have the same national homologation in italy too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
they sold 100 lancia rally4 for the trophy. if they add a similar "rally6" trophy they could probably sell similar numbers.
Rally-5 kit is homologated through an ASN, not directly with FIA, so costs are not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
FR6 are allowed in Portugal as RC6N national. They also race in last Portuguese championship rally.
Hungary will use them too on Peugeot Rally Academy.
Alpine releasing an electric A290 car for the e-Rally5 class. Opel released a model for this class too in may
Options are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
"Case 1: Cars homologated by FIA in Group A/N with two-wheel drive and for which no VRa5 is homologated at the time of the Rally5-Kit Variant request to ASN.
Case 2: Cars not homologated with the FIA but..."
At least for the Clio is clear, it cannot have a Rally5-kit because it is homologated and has a VRa5. I'm guessing the others having VRa4 are also problematic because any VRa4 also allows a VRa5.
I haven't looked too closely or cannot remember, what is the difference between these cars that they're not meeting... the already FIA homologated Rally5....? Whatever it is has to be down to reducing costs, surely?
Do FIA have any plans for the most successful rally carclass ever?
Will it keep on as now, without any tech changes?
Will it be changed to match as a level 2 class to the new Rally1 class?
What would you as competitor or a fan of rally, following the competitions on and offline?
Doubt there will be any plans on existing Rally2 made public until they work out what WRC2027 is. But that'll replace it as far as I can see. There's no sense in having two performance cars - excepting the higher-tunings that WRC-showbiz (current manufacturers) will have.
Eventually all special-stage rally cars will be spaceframe rallysport specials; and the FIA pyramid could be:
*Performance 4wd
*Entry 4wd
*Performance 2wd
*Entry 2wd
The Manufacturer Teams and Tuner Teams will be in Rally1 with the new '27 Cars (elite drivers and wealthy guys).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
The privateers in WRC2 with their old Rally2 Cars, but maybe allowed some power boost to keep them competitive.
Citroën C3 Rally2 has achieved 94 victories since the beginning of 2025. Across 328 rallies contested as of July 30, 2025, totalling over 650 starts, the Citroën C3 Rally2 has an exceptional success rate of 28.7%, according to the offcial press release:
https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-...roen-c3-rally2
First videos Lancia Rally2 in action! :bounce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5JQhqj3Rso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YShOdZRFXsw
DirtFish sources have indicated Lancia will homologate an Ypsilon Rally2 from January 1, 2026:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/lanci...ected-in-2026/
So what is the real connection of the new Lancia to the C3 Rally2 ? Does the Ypsilon road car share the same chassis, as it's a lot newer ?
There's also some talk that it's only a marketing ploy for Italy to sell there instead of Citroen's. This makes it a different thing altogether to a proper Lancia rally team comeback.
Ypsilon and new C3 are related platform-wise, but not the exact same. Ypsilon is CMP (like 208, Corsa, Mokka), C3 is SCP (like Frontera, Grande Panda).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Also the homologation end of the C3 R5 is nearing, and basically it has reached its potential. New C3 is built like a truck, so not really good basis for rallying. Also, Citroen had nothing in rallying anymore apart from the C3 R5, so I believe that this is also a "profile-cleaning" of some sort.
New video of the Lancia:
https://youtu.be/WCeADmGtqmA?si=VXDpKSyqNer4oii_
With Leo Rossel... anyone translate?
https://youtu.be/q22GWjskvMk?si=DH4RrJrB1CtRVqOs
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Fiesta Rally2 1-2 lockout at Rali Ceredigion ! :bounce:
MSPORT’s first ERC WIN in 5 years!
Jon Armstrong wins overall (ERC & BRC) with Romet Jürgenson coming in P2 after a flat-out fight all weekend against Europe’s best
Well done lads!
Good weekend for M-Sport products as Gil Membrado at the tender age of 17 wrapped up the Spanish Gravel championship in his PAST Racing run Fiesta
https://as.com/motor/mas_motor/gil-m...-el-mundial-n/
We can also add that Dominik Dinkel won Rally Kumrovec, the 7th round of Mitropa Cup and the 4th round of Croatian championship (but to be honest, the competition was very low):
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2025/?s=510601
Jon Armstrong:
"A big thanks to M-Sport and to have a 1-2 for them is amazing also, and it shows the car is great and everyone in the team."
https://www.fiaerc.com/en/news/break...ali-ceredigion
Welcome Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale
https://youtu.be/w8EqM45zhHk?si=5e_p7JssjR4p_7Aj
Nice! We didnt see that one coming,..
In the press release something like "this is just the beginning,.." that is also very promosing for the future!
Citroën is officially returning to motor racing as a factory team, Formula E - https://www.media.stellantis.com/uk-...rmula-e-is-now
It's been said that a Lancia Rally2 will enter WRC2 in 2026.
Is it possible one could also be run in ERC ? And him being Italian, maybe Mabellini could be the driver ?
Another great success for Ford Fiesta Rally2. Estonian talent Romet Jurgenson wins the 5th round of Spanish championship:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...e-oviedo-2025/
Armstrong and Jurgenson are doing M-Sport proud with the old Fiesta.
Hopefully their successes will help the Fiesta Rally2 soldier on for one more season while the team presumably dedicates themselves to developing a new 2027 Car.