Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

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Originally Posted by denkimi

But in rally there are thousands of people who don't have a ticket and thus have no contractual obligation towards the promotor.

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Not quite. Rallies are held on closed roads and entering such area requires a) permission to enter that specific area and as an outcome of that b) accepting the rules (incl. media) the organizer has set.

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

Not quite. Rallies are held on closed roads and entering such area requires a) permission to enter that specific area and as an outcome of that b) accepting the rules (incl. media) the organizer has set.

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the thing is that most rally's are not held on closed of area that can be controlled. there are people living there, there are people wandering through the woods or vineyard, in france they can't even charge money so there's no access control.

point is that you can't accidentally or involuntary stumble onto a f1 race, but you can with a rally.
if i can watch the cars without getting any kind of permission, whatever the reason i am able to do that, i have no legal obligations with anyone so nobody has anything to say over the video's and photos i make.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

the thing is that most rally's are not held on closed of area that can be controlled.

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On roads that are not closed by a public authority?

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

On roads that are not closed by a public authority?

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on public roads that are hundreds of kilometers long, have no fences or gates and have people living there.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

on public roads that are hundreds of kilometers long, have no fences or gates and have people living there.

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But still being closed by public authority?

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

Not quite. Rallies are held on closed roads and entering such area requires a) permission to enter that specific area and as an outcome of that b) accepting the rules (incl. media) the organizer has set.

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You can not say that, that is not the same for every country.

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Based in Aberystwyth, the first closed road event in Wales offering 8 stages & 44 miles on classic roads in the region is Rali Bae Ceredigion, 7th/8th September 2019.

Walesrbcrally.co.uk and LIVE on https://www.facebook.com/specialstage tomorrow.

'Rali Live' will see world-class live reporting and action from the event hosted by WRC Live’s @Becsywecsy and @EmyrPenlan
- live news from all stage ends and live action of ALL competitors on the stages with @SpecialStageuk.

https://rbcrally.co.uk/news/v/29-wor...age-announced/

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I'll be there! Really looking forward to it. Got a plan but I'll see the lay of the land in the morning...

Nice entry list for this though, with Tom Cave and Osian Pryce in R5 i20s, a few WRCs and 100+ others. https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...redigion-2019/

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

But still being closed by public authority?

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I don’t know in france, but in Spain the authority only allows you to close, but the closure is made by the organiser

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Originally Posted by m-ast

I don’t know in france, but in Spain the authority only allows you to close, but the closure is made by the organiser

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Yes, physically it's done by the organizers, but I would be surprised if there is a place in Europe where closing a road for rallying wouldn't require an approval from some public authority.

I believe denkimi is on the right path. I don't think it is legally so straightforward with rallies. When there are tickets, yes. You in a way accept the terms and conditions set by the organiser, but without tickets or even fixed entry gates it gets trickier.