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Exactly, Loeb really does not want full season and will not drive for many years in either case. To win driver titles you need driver that drives whole season. Neuville is vey fast relative to others both in Hyundais and in other cars. 2nd fastest in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Who else is there to replace Neuville that is faster than him? New guys like Hutunen or Rovanpera surely wont start with replacing Neuville on rallies.
I actually think both Neuville and Mikkelsen would like to have Loeb in the team. Both said recently in multiple interviews how Hyundai is very reluctant to make changes to the car, Loeb could add additional feedback/pressure, like he did in Citroen.
Malcolm Wilson: translated
"At this time we are still in the WRC but with only two cars, one for Teemu Suninen and the other for Elfyn Evans. For now we do not have the budget to compete with a third car, so we have not talked to Sébastien Loeb, which we would have liked to have with us next season in five or six races in the Fiesta WRC. We are still trying to organize the team for next year, we also talk to Craig Breen, but at this moment the situation is this."
More MW:
"During this week the JWRC 2019 and the new Fiesta R2 will be presented in Poland, while for the Fiesta R5 the debut of the new car will be the one scheduled in July. We will continue to have an official Fiesta R5 registered in WRC2 Pro reserved for manufacturers, piloted by the British Gus Greensmith."
I think he means AutoSprint.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Nope (any Portuguese can easily read spanish). I asked because AutoSprint was quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Competitors in the newly-created FIA WRC 2 Pro Championship are permitted to enter two R5 cars per team and must participate in a minimum of seven rounds with one car – including one event outside Europe. For the Drivers’ and Co-drivers’ Championships, the eight best scores will count towards the titles, while the highest placed car(s) in each team will score points in the FIA WRC 2 Pro Championship for Manufacturers. Competitors will have P2P status, be permitted one day of testing per event per driver, and will start in Championship order after the P1 drivers on the first day of competition. On days two and three, crews will start after the P1 group, in classification order.
The FIA WRC 2 Championship, now solely for drivers and co-drivers, will have no minimum number of events, although the first six scores from seven entered rounds will count towards the titles. Competitors will be permitted one day of pre-event testing and will start in Championship order after the P2P group, and on days two and three after the P2P group in classification order. No WRC 2 registration fee will be requested from competitors who hold a licence from the ASN of the organising country for the first event in which they participate.
An additional 10 minutes will be added to the current 30-minute midday service to give organisers the opportunity to implement promotional activities with any of the drivers.
For the purposes of cost saving, Rally Argentina and Rally Chile, and Rally Portugal and Rally Italy will be paired to enable the manufacturer teams to participate with the same chassis, engines and spare parts.
https://www.fia.com/news/fia-announc...l-decisions-12
So that means if Loeb comes to Hyundai, M-Sport having two drivers already, no third car available for them, Paddon is out of WRC squad. At least he could fight against Skodas in WRC2 Pro... Still maybe enter NZ Championship or few ocassional events for promotional purposes.
What do these two parts mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Really hope to see WRC2 Pro take off, would be great to have a second true pro level now ERC has effectively lost it and a great marketplace for teams to advertise their R5 cars for sale.
I also like the part about competitors from the same country not needing to pay to enter WRC2. Not sure if that's new, but I like the rule.
I think Mads would be a nice adition to WRC2 Pro but i don't think he can beat Rovanpera on gravel or Kopecky on tarmac with an R5 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Oh that's why! Yes, since you are portuguese it sounded weird to me. :) I just didn't get the AutoSprint reference instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
According to Belgian "Speed Magazine", they have a source that confirmed them the deal between Loeb and Hyundai is done.
http://www.speed-magazine.be/loeb-chez-hyundai-cest/
Normally it's quite a reliable source...
If i understand Google translate right, it`s the same philosophing that Clark did, not actually saying it is done?
Not exactly. They say they got the news it is signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
Then they ask themselves if that could be possible and explain the events that might cause this decision.
If loeb goes to Hyundai, which i won't believe until its official, that would mean that citroen has completely screwed up something.
Mads driving for who ? Skoda team is already settled.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
With Hyundai big in TCR it could also give Loeb some options to remain in circuit racing. He could do Nurburgring 24 even. Quite an interesting prospect. Not sure I believe it but they seem far more committed to motorsport than PSA.
My guess is CitroenQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Would be good for Citroen and boost their R5 project. He's a much better driver than Lefebrve anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...with-loeb-done
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Well, there's straight from the horse's mouth. No Loeb to Hyundai as of now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
I dont agree with almost all your words ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Confusing part when was said that they will reveal who will drive Sweden instead of Sordo... If Paddon is in pole position then why the hell waiting and not confirming lienup already... That smells a lot.
Negotiations still ongoing. Paddon might say he wants more rallies or won't help Hyundai in the rallies where Sordo won't drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Nandan moaning about speculation when its only happened due to their delay in deciding. If its the same team as 2018 just get on with announcing it !!
I don't think he is in position of ''wanting more'' when Loeb is in the game and M-Sport doors are almost closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Hyundai might say ”four rallies or nothing” and Paddon ”I want more or nothing”. Loeb might ask for too much salary or there might be an issue of who does certain rallies - throwing in Loeb would mean Sordo or Mikkelsen is out of tarmac rallies and either Sordo or Loeb would have to do Finland and Sweden, which they don’t want. Also, Mikkelsen might be guaranteed a full season, meaning it would be fourth car for Loeb on tarmac rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
What's Mikkelsen going to do if they tell him he can't have the full season? Leave? And go where?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
His career is on a knife-edge as it is....
Clark analisys on Loeb/Hyundai deal is spot on: https://www.facebook.com/voiceofrall...lLg&__tn__=K-R
whoever devotes more than 5 minutes on reading what clark thinks about the sport should consider castration as a viable life choice...
the guy wishes the sport to turn into F1 so he can be relevant...
pathetic.
In that case, reading him endlessly shouldn’t be a problem for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Seriously: he’s mostly unbearable on the KT monologues, but now and then he actually writes some good stuff, like this time. Go on, take the 5m.
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Loeb coming in at Hyundai could mean Paddon to wrc2pro maybe?
In that case, wrc2pro could become a very nice support class, imagne Skoda whit Kopecky and Kalle, Hyundai whit Paddon and Huttunen, and at Citroen Mads Ostberg and Lefevre,.. Dont know M-sport plans, but i could see Camilli defending there colors, along whit Greensmith.
Teemu Sunninen and Evans in Wrc for partial program is my guess.
Hyundai to rotate Andreas, Dani and Seb.
Im affraid Breen could be left whitout a drive for next season.
Why would that Sunninen guy and Evans have a partial program in WRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
Why not breen with Ostberg and Lefevre? Or even ditch lefevre for that matterQuote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
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Originally Posted by Rally Power
I can't really agree with him on the reason tbh. Clark says main goal for Loeb would be to "support" Neuville. I really don't think Loeb would want to drive some rallies just to drop behind to clear the road (ref. Evans and Suninen in Finland, Australia etc..), to be forbidden to drive fast on power stages or to have to do service on his car himself when mechanics are busy with Neuvilles car.
For me the main reason Hyundai would want Loeb is to help with development and setup on the car as they seem to struggle quite often with setup even against Ford and Citroen and vs Toyota seem to lack speed in general.
EDIT: I agree with him that Hyundai has to be under real pressure, after all they were leading both champs. mid-season and didn't won any, same last year. Car is one thing, drivers another but also the rest of the team.... For example in Turkey Neuville's retirement from first place was due to a mechanic not mounting the damper correctly and 3 stages later (after another service) Mikkelsen dropped from 1st to 5th after he left service with some bolts missing.
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Obviously you can agree on CCs opinions/speculations or not. But to criticize him for having an option and sharing it when he is a journalist is extremely retarded. To attract manufacturers/sponsors you need popularity, (almost) any kind of discussion or media talk is a plus. CC is atm the only worldwide known rally journalist that actually has an opinion and gets out with it. We should want more of those, not less.(Evans is 99% press release copy and Holmes used to be ok some time ago but lately is like Evans).
Agree whit you about CC, his info isnt always right, but its entertainment for worldwide rally fans. I like the guy, hope he keeps up his work ad pasionatte as thisQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I just think it could be that M sport is not doing the whole 2019 championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet