Besttime for Meeke, 3.4 sec faster as Thierry
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Besttime for Meeke, 3.4 sec faster as Thierry
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I hope it's only splits for Meeke :confused:
Edit: OK ;)
Great time by Meeke to consolidate 2nd place !
Latvalla once again fastest trough
Latvala 3 and 6 seconds faster (with nothing at risk) than 2 guys that are killing each other for 2nd place... yes i am sure it is the superior tarmac skills of Latvala... you are wrong man... simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
Meeke great again!
I rank meeke same level with seb and JM.
Top three rally drivers in WRC 2014
SS14
Latvala
Meeke +2.6
Neuville +6.0
Sordo +12.4
Ostberg +14.0
Hirvo +14.4
Mikkel. +16.0
Evans +16.7
Kubica +30.5
4 stages to see who is going to get that 2nd place great performances by Meeke and Neuville.
ooh, I really like Kris Meeke, he is so lovely, outspoken and I really like his accent. I hope we will see Khris next season as well.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/april...7--12-12-.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by satukata
yes, ogier and latvala are very good, but not that good. you can only do that if there's no real competition.Quote:
Volkswagen has now won 204 of the 312 special stages it has contested – a success rate of 65 per cent.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
latavala has only once beaten sordo in germany, and that was when sordo drove the inferior mini. i do not believe for 1 second he could gain a gap of over a minute and drive all the scratches in an equal car.
I think that's pretty much been made sure by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostmourne
Problem for Lefèbvre or only splits not working :confused:
Edit: only GPS ;)
But Fisher loses 2'47 on split 2... :(
Just a small question in relation to the way You build up Your arguments - do You find Your selv in the midst of puberty?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
i hope so tooQuote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
no, i am 34... and amazed by how that tarmac specialist while he has nothing to fight for is beating meeke neuville and sordo who are fighting like pitbuls for 2nd...
I mean we all know the rich tarmac heritage of latvala and his amazing ZERO tarmac wins over the years.... so it is definately not due to the car that he beats sordo neuville and meeke so easily.
What happened to Giordano, Fisher and Koci on that SS14 :confused:
Don't be fulled-JML is NOT in a safe mode. He is still pushing. He said yesterday-driving in a safe mode can bring mistakes....Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Safe mode not... but still he can brake a bit earlier in difficult spots.
well practice make perfect, latvala has said in the last few years that he has been working on his tarmac skills and it seems to be paying off, who would have thought he would beat fair & square not one but 2 tarmac specialists.. well done for Jari-Matti
He ran on Nürburgring Nordschleife
Kris Meeke maybe (?) caused an accident this morning between two stages and didn`t stop? police is inquiring.
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/rally...8-14-a-52.html
Any info about this?
To get that statement to add up, there is a couple of aspects that I think You should take in to consideration to cross check if the equation will add up.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
What I think is important to check is if this is Latvala on a show of form, or if this is only the car (or teh car has most to do with it).
1) Sebastien Loeb
After two days of Rally Deutchland, in sometimes difficult conditions, his best rally, where do You think Sebastien Loeb would be placed in regards to Kris Meeke?
The same question, but now add Sordo or Neuville.
2) Sebastien Ogier
If we use Ogier as a benchmark, we know that he was on a speed similar and slightly faster than Latvala. If we take away Latvala, where should Ogier be placed in this stage of the rally. How much in front of Meeke and Neuville would we expect to see him?
3) Sordo, Neuville, and Meeke
If we take in account the lack of driving for Sordo, the lack of form this year from Neuville, and the lack of experience from Meeke, where should they be placed in regards to Ogier (if he was still in it), since we know that the current leader is travelling at a speed similar to Ogiers.
4) Latvala
a) Has his performance the whole year been 100% consitent, or has he had some up and downs?
b) Can his current form be related to a positive form curve, like him just winning an event, setting good times etc?
These questions, and more info like filiming from testing etc, is the basis of my toughts on the matter.
When i "run" these calculations, I come up with Latvala being the variable, meaning this is Latvala on a good form, (doing a good drive), and not the car doing the drive for him.
Latvala's skills on tarmac should not be underestimated. He has develop his skills over the years and had some really good advisors like Romain Dumas for 1 example. If it wasn't Loeb around he should make his tarmac victroy long ago.
True, zero wins, on the other hand other 3 mentioned sumed have overall of 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
+1;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Different version of events reported here http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115512Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
Autosport article with Meeke's comments - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115512Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
Nobody says it is just the car.... nobody said it is even the car doing most of the work... the point is that JUST the VW is just a far better car allowing Latvala to be that superior on tarmac and Ogier dominating like never before.
Yes Ogier is a far superior driver to everyone right now but put him in a hyundai and he would probably have less wins but still be champion.
Latvala is easily the second fastest driver nowadays but put him in a ford and he would probaly have more offs and not be second in the championship.
Meeke is fast yes, put him in a VW and he would win ssome events this year and he would not have so many opffs trying to cope with the speed of the citroen to catch the VW same goes for the rest of the bunch that are professional drivers... for example sordo and neuville would be potential winners int he VW here...
You have a very complicated thought process thus you ignore basic stuff thus you are wrong. You choose to ignore the things that are infront of you and you complicate things beyond reality... you are one of those people who are just annoying because you bend reality to prove your point.... you bore me. This ends the discussion from my part...continue living in your fake wolrd full of IFs BUTs and What IFs... star trek land is a nice place for some people.
1 is still bigger than 0... elementary school stuff...also Mr sordos 2nd and 3rd places on tarmac are also a bit more than Latvalas..... but ok i do not have high hopes from people.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I think to say all time is only from JML is wrong, 1/2 car 1/2 JML is more correct IMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
Ok, little higher school math - 3 drivers have overall of 1 win, this makes 1/3 (0.333.... if You want) wins, which is neglitable achievment, there is not even 1 win for each of them, so we can't call it real win. If we add to the equation Latvala's generous mistake while leading last year here, the numbers would be quite different and Latvala would have 1 whole win, while other 3 asphalt specialists, exactly ZERO. But this is only probability theory anyway (wait, that's math from university)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
amen brother...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
no matter how many times you divide 1 it is still going to be larger than 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
as i said i do not have high hopes... so you can go on... by yourself.
JML never won a tarmac rally in a time where Loeb won all the tarmac rally's. In the last 10 years, who won tarmac rally's? :-)
More photos from Saturday HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1292
Bryan must have kissed a hinkelstein :-)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvvZrl-IYAA4AyT.jpg
Sordo.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
Seb Ogier, he won here 3 years ago when Loeb had a punctureQuote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
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another Finnish person beaten up by the french drivers all these years that has problems understanding english... read the post again...
try and wipe the tears from your eyes of championship-less years and try and understand what i said.
If you fail i cannot help.