Pack it in Mirek.
1. I didnt say that.
2. Tanak said his tyres were a big advantage and his times prove it.
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Pack it in Mirek.
1. I didnt say that.
2. Tanak said his tyres were a big advantage and his times prove it.
They aren't special, D-Mack tyres are just softer than Michelins, be it hard or soft compound. But to say it is huge advantage, hardly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Michelin video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jELmHNJ8UXk
Nice pass of Abbring!
https://instagram.com/p/BMMexGbgq5j/
When Abbring wasn't crashing his times were more impressive than with the old Hyundai World Rally Car.. maybe because he was the test driver for the R5 he is more comfortable with it.
Yeeehuuuuu! What an amazing weekend, just a shame about those little problems on friday but other than that superb weekend, especially today when Tänak won all stages.
Expected a lot more from Meeke to be honest and really really good to see old Neuville back in the second half of the season. Paddon again admitted that he has work to do because his style is just so flamboyant for these kind conditions but he wasnt far away from podium.
Another rally to forget for main m-sport guys and you barely noticed Sordo.
I don't think it's just you. As far as the UK is concerned, it's a common them on many motorsport websites & forums; WRC just isn't getting much interest as it once did. WRC is miles behind F1, BTCC, MotoGP/WSBK/BSB, WEC/Sportscars - even the boring Formula E gets more interest. Our 'flagship' event this weekend is pretty much invisible, which doesn't help.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
10-13 identikit events is not what made the WRC the great series it once was. What we now have we're stuck with.
no just wrc cars are at a very different level.Abbring always was fast with r5 cars.Actually I don't remember any rally that he was slow with r5 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
bring on wales 2017 and bring back night stages
nice pace from Tanak.For sure tyres helped,but imho with Michelins wouldn't be so different.
Ogier master,well deserved win,no mistakes.
Meeke,ok he hadn't got good starting position,ds3 maybe isn't among best cars at GB mud,but his pace was slow.Didnt wait that he would be out of podium reach/fight.
Neuville,another rally with good pace,seems that he is steadily fast and no mistakes.Thats good,we need top players.
Paddon ,a good rally,he was pushing ,he avoided mistakes at difficult circumstances.
Sordo,didnt surprise me,expecting pace.
Ostberg,what to say...
Mikkelsen,not fast,waiting more at this surface.
Latvala.As a mate said,year by year seems slower and out of pace.
Camilli,not progress,but I will wait for his second year.
Breen.nice pace for the 4 stages he was into the rally.Acceptable mistake for me.
Lappi excellent rally,he made difference and controlled easily after.Third rally win in a row.
Abbring,to many mistakes.Pitty,he could give us a nice fight with the other 3 top contenters.
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Looks like already water leak and suspension components failure problems are solved by Hyundai in their R5 cars.
Off on SS1 in GB wasn't the fault of Abbring, it was unlucky tire valve which broke.
Second day was total disaster with propshaft failure before first stage of the day.
3rd day was good at the beginning, then small off and broken suspension on last stage.
His earlier performance this year in WRC car is hard to judge speed wise, as car was often in some "strange" specs.
Would love to have seen Tidemand's power stage, presume it wasn't shown?
propshaft?! probably because of off from 1st day?Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Don't think so honestly... strange failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
What if that's why he crashed again after just few short stages?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I remember quite a few broken propshafts from Fabia S2000 (in 2010) with way less torque and several from Pech's Mini RRC so while it's not so common issue it still happens from time to time. Likely material issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
The team said they thought it failed because it was damaged from trying to get out of the ditch on ss1 didn't they? They probably have more idea about it than us.
propshafts or halfshafts Mirek?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Propshafts, there was a time when Škoda had quite many issues with them (around 2010 but afaik they never retired because of that). I believe they were from X-Trac that time. Pech broke one or two on Mini too.
I think that with these cars without central differential there is quite a high strain on propshaft.
He said "some advantage"Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Don't always trust press releases in 100%, remember that they write what's good for them.
Propshafts are under high stress in those cars, like Mirek wrote, but that was not an issue in this case.
In Fiesta it's not happening (propshaft is based on standard part) in PSA cars also not an issue if everything aligned well (and propshaft there completely custom part - straight big diameter pipe without any joints)
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So why do you think he is relatively quicker with R5 than WRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
And you are all over the place.. the other day you were facepalming someone for criticising Abbring for crashing too much.
Hmmm. Lappi and Suninen cars under investigation, apparently.
Could the WRC2 title about to be decided by FIA Stewards?
I don't think that Škoda ever wrote anything about their problems with propsahft on public so it's not from press release. I know for sure they had them even with works cars. For example Valoušek on Rally Šumava 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
I didn't. He said something different. He said the cars are falling apart under Abbring's hands because of his driving not that he is crashing too much. He keeps repeating it also on Czech forums, that's why I reacted maybe too harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Anyway in my post I didn't critize Abbring for going off but rather saying that what he showed on several short stages is hardly an evidence of anything. Especially when he went off quickly.
Backing from WV and Hyundai this year. M-Sport and D-Mack doing full season as "teams", Citroen selected events.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_sw2000
Next year Toyota backed privateer, same Ford maybe. Citroen maybe as full factory.
I remember the times, when you had to fight to get to to 10, now just to have WRC car is enough for that. And no fights for lead in many of teh evnts. That's why I think it is boring
He was bitten by a Galli :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MartijnS
Stewarts decision on Lappi - 10.000 € fine for Skoda:
http://www.walesrallygb.com/document...ision_No_7.pdf
Stewarts decision on Suninen - 1.000 € fine for Team Oreca:
http://www.walesrallygb.com/document...8_(yellow).pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P0s7aWAmgg
"Wales Rally GB Day3 Alwen" by Elwyn R
So the top SD driver was 2nd O/A with the most stage wins and all from a bad road position..Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Heh, you will never drop thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But I don't regret what I said, though. I underestimated Tänak's pace and fair play to him, he was outstanding this rally and I think if he was 4th in SD it wouldn't have changed anything. But where were the other 2 from the top 3 in SD? Not on the podium, that's for sure ;)
He went off after trying to avoid a rock coming out of a corner, he hit a bank which broke the suspension. Doesn't seem as a result from pushing too hard or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Are we still discussing what's going on with the Fiestas??
Östberg's just not fast and Camilli isn't either(yet, he's still learning). Tänak is just so much better and that's why he's on the pace and the others aren't.
Östberg couldn't beat Fabian Kreim for that matter...
Congrats to Ogier and Lappi but also to Tanak and DMack! Surprising stage times from Abbring. Nice win for Koci and 2nd title for Tempestini, well done!
Why not? Both are eligible’s for WRC3 and besides Andolfi many other drivers in ERC or national series proved that R2 cars can get quite close to R3’s, even if in theory they’re inferior. Anyway, my goal was to mention Lopez nice performance in a WRC event after his brilliant win in 208 French Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Watch a video of the cars going through the same set of corners. The DMACK car does not slide nearly as much as the michelins. It's not one driver, Meeke, Paddon, Neuville all look the same whereas Tanak could drive a much straighter line.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Sorry Mirek, I was thinking about it when I was writing that not always press release is saying thruth.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Not sure what people experienced on other stages, but it definitely seemed to me that the organisers had taped a lot more areas around the spectator entrances. So places that in the last few years you could stand and 'roam free' you were now taped in. Certainly on shakedown there was plenty more tape. More on Gartheiniog too.Quote:
Originally Posted by christy but
Despite all that I still enjoyed it and managed to get roughly where I wanted to go. Pics to follow later this week.
Impressions of my weekend:
Shakedown. First time I'd done Cloc' and what a great morning. Tanak was visibly on form and such a thrilling series of runs. Ogier on his first run demonstrated why he has less problems than other drivers, smooth lines and very little sideways movement. We found a good untaped spot and we're able to walk down the stage to the well-known video location and then out through the official car park back to where we'd left our car. Service park was a waste of time as we didn't get there until 2pm when all WRC cars had been carted off to the Start event. Less to see compared to last year and the Network Q stand not even manned!
We went to the Start venue but found it packed with locals out for a free spectacle. Also the cars were only accessible to the VIP pass holders. We rapidly came to the conclusion that a pint was far more attractive a proposition so walked into town to find a pub. Purple Moose elderflower ale is wonderful!
So -Shakedown good stage and only sensible marshalling encountered. Service and start - don't bother! More later (maybe the odd photo too).