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New Skoda Fabia RS Rally2 Reveal
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New Skoda Fabia RS Rally2 Reveal
Nice live presentation with clear details about the car, its development and testing.
Also good to hear from each of the test driver's. Meeke stating it's as quick as the 2016-gen WRC cars on the same stages really shows the progress in this Class.
Given that the old car has just won the last WRC2 and ERC event and the new one has more power and torque, more downforce and better weight distribution I’m confident it will be pretty good!
Looking forward to seeing it take to the stages.
Official test footage, good to see more on gravel. Engine sounds gutsy!
https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/cs/..._rally2_tests/
What physical dimensions, and wheelbase does it have?
Is it aprox as the Polo?
Fabia is slightly bigger in all dimensions (a few tens of mms)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
For me it looks like Polo R5 from side view.
Is it homologated yet, if not when do they plan for?
Can keen drivers or teams order one yet?
1st August
Nice video by Dirtfish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKc3_Gv9Z_8&t=330s
The new Fabia almost looks like it's from a class above, rather than a 'supermini'.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yeah, it's not far off a Golf. Most Skoda models tend to be slightly bigger than the class average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Any prices mentioned yet for the 3rd generation Fabia?
What is your guesstimate for new car, gravel and asphalt, normal sparepart set for a season in a national series?
I believe it’s the only car in it’s class that has gone above 4100mm long. I’ve seen a few in the metal but they didn’t strike me as that big. Perhaps if I saw one next to something like a Yaris it would!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Meeke reckons he's done more miles testing the Fabia than he's ever done before in a year:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally...d-differently/
BTW, do we have any info where PSA/Stellantis is planning to go on the Rally2 front? The C3 is nearing the end of its lifespan, but no news on the successor, or at least I didn't come across it.
It's a tricky time to be planning on changing or creating a new Rally2 car. How long will it be until the switch to hybrid or full-electric comes and will a car be able to be retro-fitted with the new tech ?
I am afraid that after new Skoda Fabia RS Rally2 we will see only one more new current Rally2 car and that will be all...
The Fiesta is getting older now... Puma Rally2 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Citroën made electric rallycross C3, which was retrofitted Rally2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
How long has it been now? 3 years since they’ve introduced it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
That was just fitting the Stard kit and made specifically for rallycross. Fitting a hybrid/ electric motor in an existing ICE rally car, for stage use over many kms, is a different thing altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Yep. And with the Puma taking over as the Rally1 you would expect a Puma Rally2 to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Well if they'd do that won't they also have to change the Fiesta Rally3 & so forth? Perhaps they're waiting for someone in the FIA to get off their butts and change the regulations of Rally2/R5 after next to nothing has been done to them since they introduced them back in 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I’d be very surprised if that happens. The taller body would surely make it too hamstrung right from the off compared to other hatchback-based rally cars. The only reason this isn’t a problem for the Rally1 is the spaceframe chassis conceptQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I see your point, but the Puma is based on the Fiesta anyway so I can see it being possible to just lower the Puma and make it viable as a rally car.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Also the Puma is the big seller now (above the Fiesta) so Ford will want to capitalise on that. And Ex-Ford boss Gerrard Quinn said on Twitter he expects M-Sport to be working on it...
Yep, they don't sell Fiesta anymore in USA which is FORD´s biggest market. Most of Fiesta sales nowadays are 5-door models, I believe UK is only place where they sell huge amounts of 3-doors. (registration of 3-door Fiesta in Finland 2020-21 was around 25pcs, Fiesta totally around 1000pcs, many of those Active or Vignale models)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ford dont sell ANY cars in the USA now, only SUVs and pick-ups !Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
The last sporty 3-door car, the Fiesta, has now officially stopped production ! The crossovers and 4x4s are killing the market for them, even though every other niche is catered for. :(
Will the other new one be from the Stellantis comglomerate?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
For how long will the current Rally2 regs be in action?
Why would you want to promote you already best selling product even more? It would make more sense to promote the less selling cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Their only other rally car, the Fiesta, is coming to the end of production according to rumours. If there is to be another Ford Rally2 it has to be a Puma.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Do Ford really care about Rally2? In my head, other than approving the affiliation, that's pure M-Sport business.
I want to push PLuto on this too. Peugeot 208 is next up to lapse, in 2024...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
It's going to take some serious work and investment by anyone who wants to make a new Rally2 if they have any hope of competing with the new Skoda.
Fabia undisguised: https://youtu.be/qb0RNdkCXgQ
I guess that's Andreas driving the zero car on Bohemia then..
The headquarter operation in the UK seems to have their hands full with Rally1.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
As I have said before, the Polish arm should be given responsibility for all Customer Rally cars, then we could see movement on development on their Rally2 car.
i think no-one will move before the new 2025 reg. for now, the thing to do is rally3 and maybe the super lowcost rally5eQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Don't think it matters if they aren't running any. Maybe in the future it'd make sense to be based where the market is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
FWIW I meant Ford-Ford, blue oval people who produce consumer road vehicles.
Few pics from yesterday's Fabia RS rally2 test with Mikkelsen behind the wheel. The word really is that he will drive at Rally Bohemia as a zero car.
https://www.facebook.com/10004534208...W2rF1zB8l/?d=n
I don't think Andreas has driven the car on tarmac much, if at all, so makes sense to give him a go before the debut.