Think thats the PS win for Tanak.
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Think thats the PS win for Tanak.
that was quite a ride from both Hyundai guys
Nice jump by Fourmaux, learning from this morning.
Very good rally by Greensmith, decent pace and no mistakes.
Great drive by Katsuta, prob worthy of driver of the rally considering his battle with Ogier.
Definitely not seen as a second rate token driver anymore!
Evans slower than Ogier, so Ogier must clean the road again in Sardegna it seems if Evans suddenly doesnt up his pace
100% :)Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Brilliant consistent drive Elfyn. Great win.
Taka did really good job, but just need to take in account, he did not fight with Ogier for 1st place, Ogier was way out of his usual pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewy46
Congrats to Evans Martin,well deserved victory.
Also congrats to Lappi,clearly faster and no mistakes at all
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Congrats Elfyn and also to Dani. In many ways both are similar in their consistent WRC performances and putting up reliable results. No doubt that is why their respective teams choose them as second or third driver. OK, Elfyn could have been Champion, last year, but I'm sure he wasn't drafted in to the Toyota team with that in mind.
Congrats Evans, consistent drive like always
really gutted for Tänak (last without technical problems gravel rally was Estonia for him) but gave a strong warning for his competitors on gravel at least. Said he hasnt felt this good in one and a half years.
Sordo showing again that he is the best 3rd driver in the series IMO.
Ogier being Ogier again but his pace is a little worrying, from the body language it seems for him too.
Very good showing again from the youngsters apart from Loubet.
Like i already said, Lappi in his own class in WRC2 at the moment.
After friday he had same time as Suninen and 2s ahead of his teammate Gryazin who drove Portugal for first time. That's even after Østberg got a puncture from same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Then Gryazin immediatelly hit engine issues and Suninen dropped 15s before running into multiple issues of his own.
Great drive by Lappi and staying out of trouble, but nothing like Arctic.
Wonder what they plan next. For WRC2 championship they have to do a round outside of Europe (so Safari or Japan), which is expensive. For getting WRC drive (which surely is the goal) he should do some tarmac and not just Estonia/Finland where "everyone" expects he will be fast.
Bulacia and Camilli 2nd and 3rd on PS from that spot after WRCs.
Ogier's rant: "Making a regulation for losers, that was never my vision"
"I feel annoyed but that's the usual feeling after opening days. Those kind of days are very long. What Neuville did today is not bad. It is sure he was a little faster than me starting second but that makes a difference compared to the first place. He certainly drives faster than me throughout the day. About thirty seconds separate us: I think that twenty are due to our positions, "slipped the reigning world champion to Olivier Gaspard, RTBF special correspondent in Sardinia.
And to conclude, in a tone that sticks to his annoyance: "What do I hope for tomorrow? That the weekend is over and we go home. My speech is the same as last year, ca This has been going on for several years. This is not the vision I have of sport. Making a regulation for the losers (editor's note: the losers), that was never my vision. But that's how it is ... "
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...ion?id=9629948
Veiby suspended for 6 months of wrc events for breaching Covid rules. Anders son also 3 months. They left Portugal and went to Spain. Also didn't declare a risk contact with a positive person.
Mayr-Melnhof and Welsersheimb rolled. Heli transportation to hospital
Pic: Maciej Niechwiadowicz
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2EzMbIX...pg&name=medium
Looks very similar to a crash that happened here exactly like this some years ago. That was a Fabia R5 if I remember well. Hopefully they are not injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Edit: looked it up, it was Gilbert in 2017 with a Fabia.
The clip. Very hard impact
https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/stat...389192195?s=21
Anyone has a count of how many rallies Tänak has lost from a leading position due to crash, tyre failure or mechanical failure?
I had the same question in my head, but I think it's not always that clear - like are those damages or failures with car caused by some rough driving or they are just failures. Like small avoidable mistakes here and there which results later with some failure. And then we may have endless discussion, should car be just stronger or driver should take care of car the way it reach to finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissucool
As fan of Tänak (like usual Estonian), the count is anyway "too big".
At VW Latvala's car was always breaking down while the other 2 weren't.
That question has actually an easy answer. When the driver drives the car, it already exists and therefore the driver has to take into account its limits ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
When you think about it, Neuviile lost here a potential win because if not for his accident, and considering Tanak's car would still fail, Neuville would achieve another win which could've propelled him to the championship lead. But again, a lot of if's and but's in this championship doesn't win you a championship. Really impressive form from Katsuta & Greensmith, hopefully they'll continue with that pace, as for Sordo, 4 months away from the car and 7 months since his win last year to get his best ever result here, pretty impressive, Ogier as always, knows how to take the maximum from each weekend, Bring on Sardegna!
Yeah, I am not even thinking that he is so unproportionally unlucky but rather that the events he has lost due to mistakes of with his, the cars or a combination of both seems massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Just from the top of my head: Poland 2016, Portugal 2017, Poland 2017? (Dont remember if he was leading),Finland 2017, GB 2018, Catalunya 2018, Sardegna 2019, Tour de Corse 2019, Portugal 2021.
Well Neuville lost at least 3 championships due to his crashes:
2017 - MC, SWE, GER
2019 - CHIl, TUR
2020 - EST, MONZA
I see I forgot 2018 Australia, last crash was a desperate attempt, but hus first crash on friday was definitely a mistake.
But rest of cars running by "8:38 itinerary" and it's a 8min time gap on a stage between 1st and 2nd carsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Well, Ogier doesn't crash and that's why he is multiple WDC and Neuville and Tanak aren't. We can talk about cars, issues and so on but it all comes down to this.
Tänaks last crash was Monte 2020, while Ogiers was Arctic this year and Neuville on this rally. Before Monte 2020, the last crash Tänak had was in Australia 2018. In 17 he definitely lost the title due his own mistakes (Finland, Poland, France, Portugal)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pršljen
But in 2018 I would say Tänak definitely lost the title due technical/mechanical failures. Kind off also in 2020, kind off because we can also say he lost the title due to Monte crash and 0 points but he also had technical failures again in Turkey and Sardegna where he didnt get many points, which was very vital which such a short season.
Best of by Passats De Canto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDBH2__w3M4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZAthzRKsE
Article from 2017 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It is not normal in this competition and such a high pace for Tanak to beat them for 5 minutes per section. This means that he does not know how to protect his car. That is why his results will be like this. Most stop at the very turn only Ott comes to one side from the middle of the line. I apologize, but there is no car to withstand it, he is to blame for most of the dropouts. He will have to change his style because of poor Hyundai .... I apologize for my English ....
really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ds3
i remember very clearly Tommi saying in an interview back in 18 or 19 that when Ott comes back to the service with the car it looks good and well held.
of course he could lie too.
are you really sure that you know exactly what you are talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ds3
I dont know. It seems weird for me that for every rally Tänak has won there is at least 1 if not more where he has either crashed, had tyre failures costing him the win or technical issue.
The same with Hyundai, the big advantage for Hyundai compared to Toyota was supposed to be reliability. Somehow Tänak has had technical problems now in 3 out of the 5 gravel rallies he has raced with Hyundai.
Meanwhile suddenly Ogier has 1 and Evans 0 (if I am not forgetting anything) with Toyota.
Also seems crazy Ogier, driving with so many different manufacturers has so few of these technical issues with each car.
How many rallies has Ogier lost from a leading position due to crash, tyre or mechanical failure? Dont think we can compare the rate of wins to lost wins ratio with Tänak. When Ogier is comfortably leading a rally you basically know he will win it.
With Tänak you always have that feeling there is at least a 25-30% chance of something going horribly wrong.