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Such bad TV coverage. Barely giving any time information from the end of the stage.
If you are going to design the entire final day around TV coverage you HAVE to do a better job than this!!!
Hey, interviews. Go Evans!
Come on Elfyn !
Stage end interviews?
What else is wrong?
yeah Go Evans
Well done evans!!
Get in Elfyn, great job !!!
Well done Elfyn. A terrific result.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Come on, Jari, the nice man with the microphone is waiting.
Kubica 2nd on PowerStage!
Great work from Elfyn.
Kubica making a mockery of the TV power stage by taking second completely out of sight. Lefebvre could also take 10th off Tanak.
Well done Evans. Deserved result after friday's "walk in the park"
Seriously?! Coverage just ended and switched to an hour long commercial for a vaccum cleaner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
So Evans do ones good stage time (because of tricky conditions), and he takes 2nd? The result looks good, but don't be fooled into thinking he was on the pace. What a joke of a rally.
These were Evans's stage positions.....not very impressive really.
6th, 1st, 7th, 3rd, 6th, 10th, 9th.
FThat's what happens when you have a rally with only 7 stages. I still think he did a good job holding off Mikkelsen, but I don't think anyone seriously thinks Evans was on the pace; everybody knows that if there had been a few more stages, Evans would have started to slide down the leaderboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
it's not just good stage time - it was excellent. btw these positions doesn't mean much whe 3-4 drivers are within few seconds. He had done enough to deserve his 2nd place
Exactly, it was a pathetic rally. Was really boring to follow with all the huge gaps. Glad I didn't spend money to go over there.
If the rally hadn't been cut short by 90 kms, he wouldn't have held off Mikkelsen or Meeke.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
or.... he might just as well win it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
OK< whats the reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
No, no he wouldn't have. Definitely not. The fastest cars / drivers this weekend were yet again the 3 VW's, and for a couple of stages a few other drivers got lucky. These are facts :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
congrats to Latvala for the win.
massively dissapointment from all the others except Ogier of course.His pace at power stage ridiculed everybody.
Lappi and Tidemand lost from Maurin?
didn t enjoyed the rally,very boring with these gaps.
don't blame me for speaking hypothetically:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Doon
He lost 40 secs alone to Latvala today, Saturday 24 secs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
But great performance nevertheless.
Sun 13:13 - SS9: RGT Delecour
He wins the RGT class at the wheel of his 911. "Driving the Porsche here in Corsica is not easy. I'm so happy because I think we also won the championship."
Congratulations for him if he is!
As for Evans I do agree with you his pace was not worth a second place or even a podium but we should praise him for his pace on that stage in very very difficult conditions. Maybe if they wouldn't canceled the big stage in that condition he could have had more advantage. What I want to say is that sometimes rally is also driving in a mess like it was the stage where i gained so much time.
In normal condition it is clear he is nowhere.
So finally, how is the case with the points? Will the drivers receive full points or will they receive only half points? There were rumours here in this forum that with less than 75% kms run there are only half points. So I am confused :)
Have some people on here never watched a rally before? You don't decide your end result by adding together what position you were in on each stage.
After all the stages the stopwatch had Elfyn in second - so, in a rally where everyone had equal conditions, how does he not deserve to finish second?
I want him to do well but I'm not some blinkered Evans apologist. I don't think he's impressed much at all during his WRC career and I have been critical of him - but I'll say what I said the other day - let's give credit where it's due.
You can't start adding on stages that didn't exist and you can't predict what would happen in them and brand that as 'fact'. There's no reason why Evans couldn't have put time into, or at least matched Latvala, in those horrendous conditions on Friday. But those stages never ran so we have what we have.
On wrc+ showed Latvala with 160, so this should mean full pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by liposh
this power stage tv coverage was complete joke
why they throwed out Neuville and Kubica and no Ogier also ? What a mess, and yet when Kubica came 2nd they showed poewr stage results without him. :confused:
One of the best, Francois. Always been one of my favourites. Congrats to him on the RGT Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Ogier was there. He was the first car they broadcast. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Quad
Kubica and Neuville came after the broadcast ended. Desborough said that "they didn't have time to show more than a dozen cars" and also stated that the results shown at the end of the WRC+ feed were provisional and not necessarily final (Kubica finished 2nd after the broadcast had ended).
I do however agree with you that it was a shame that they couldn't feature all WRC drivers. The stage was reasonably "boring" as well considering the different options they had for the power stage, but okay, that's down to the organizers and not the crew at WRC+.
the thing is, that Kubica and Neuville were from morning first cars on the road, and they throwed them from their starting order to the endQuote:
Originally Posted by rallyace
That surprised me too but maybe Lappi was driving for the championship points.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Not to mention they throwed also Lefebvre instead of Ogier from the road order
I suppose a one-hour (TV friendly broadcast), long-ish stage, plus a fairly decent entry of cars made it difficult to fit everything in. Very bad TV product though all in all. Rushed, not particularly entertaining. Lack of information from Desborough surrounding the key battle (Evans/Mikkelsen). Not sure how it really sells the sport to new fans tuning in before the football for instance.
Those, who say that Kubica should leave WRC and that Robert is not a WRC material, :
1. Have never driven a car;
2. Whatch only champinship standings instead of real action;
3. Are head of manufacturer team;
4. Are Prokop fans;
5. Have no soul.
Well , if not punctures yesterday he would have finished 2nd here. Seriously I watched onboards, he did not hit anything, the rim just cracked itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Negaiss
Maybe Ogier's fingerprints are all over that rim...? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Quad
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