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#25 to Aloísio Monteiro (debut at Barum).
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Another saying how impressive the car is on a test. Let's hope this translates into some good results on gravel soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
You should learn more about media literacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So all the positive comments from those testing is just spin ? No-one is going to say anything bad after being invited to drive it. Maybe so.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Toyota plans a 3 cylinder 1 liter R5.
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/int/ar...lindern-41617/
Is this a good idea, and will FIA say yes to their request?
I can't find anything that says "1 litre" in the article.
True, my mistake. I blame the jet lag :pQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
So three cylinder 1600cc turbo, is it a torque thing then?
Can anyone think of any successful three cylinder motorsport engines for cars? (in something other than a one make series for Toyota aygo or whatever).
I sure as hell can't, and I can't imagine this will possibly end well.
Ford Fiesta R2Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
+wartburg 2 strokeQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
You can't call that successful rally car, but you can call this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_Union_1000
Also SAAB used 3 cyl 2 stroke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBHBgg3mSeU
But the Ford 1 litre engine is amazing piece of engineering!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFj5UIZx2cE
Before quattro everyone think that 4wd isnīt succesfull...Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Someone must be 1st in everything.
You really think that Fiesta R2 isnīt successful ???
So whatīs the thing then? Bore x stroke changes? Less weight moving?
Any engineers telling theoretically thoughts?
Exactly. Estonian driver Ken Torn entered 3 ERC events with this car this year. And he won them all, despite good competitors. Check out ERC3 standings:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/#
Interest of the factory to develope three cylinder engines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Hmm, as far as I know the issues with Ford EcoBoost are not the case of one litre but more of the 1.5 four cylinder. The one litre has been AFAIK pretty reliable engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
August 13th, the chassis 13
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Today, Eric Camilli and Simone Campedelli tested the Ford Fiesta R5 MK2
https://www.rallyssimo.it/2019/08/16...ord-fiesta-r5/
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Meaning what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Air-intake for "Safari" type events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Ascchhhaaaaa...!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Anders Grøndal did the first test with his new fiesta R5 mk2 today, ready for this weekends rally Grimstad on tarmac.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a3da2e1925.jpg
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As it was delivered. Fiesta R5 Mk2 just stunning in blue... wish you could buy one like this as an ST !
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M-Sport Essi said that it isnīt FORD RS blue but colour is great
Post moved from Rally Deutschland topic. You can continue here the discussion if you want.
The main point is just that the car is not good. A driver like Camilli or Suninen should be good enough to be on pace with any R5. This was proved by Breen, who won rallies with the old Fiesta and even with the Hyundai. Drivers with less experience have won WRC2 with Fabias and Polos (and old Fiestas).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
When a private team or driver decides to buy a new car, they aren't today relying only on marketing talk. They can watch videos and read results, they know what the cars can do. It's not down to magic tricks.
Too early to write off the new Fiesta R5. Let's see how it develops. The new Fabia R5 is (at this moment) hardly faster than the old one.
You just say what I mean. Marketing talk is getting results, not bragging at service park.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Oooppps. Now I leave again.
On the other hand I had a rather long talk about the Fiesta with an engineer from one of the potential customer and this guy was honestly shocked how bad the car appeared so far. As everyone he expected it to be much better than what it has shown so far. And it was not only about the stage times or the drivers but also about the dreadful appearance in Finland and Estonia where the car looked like it was all just an initial testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Maybe so... M-Sport did put all their efforts into the WRC car for Ogier in the last two years.
Not surprising if the new R5 is undercooked.
If you take out the two factory Skodas it seems like Polo is the fastest R5 atm.
Yes, I also think that the Polo is the fastest R5 now. There is still some work on the reliability though.
That's a nice oldschool livery on Grondal's new Fiesta R5:Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
https://www.rallygrimstad.no/wp-cont...3/DSC_0013.jpg
There are 9 other R5 cars on the entry list, so there will be a chance to compare the car against other competitors (but, apart from Veiby and Larsen, their names tell me nothing):
http://www.nmkhadeland.com/images/st...mstad_2019.pdf
Good luck to the new Ford!