[WRC] 86th Rallye Monte-Carlo 2018 (Jan 22-28)

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27th January 2018, 16:40
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by rs7

My understanging was that the C3 does not have the new suspension parts yet. So basically it is a last years car in that department

I thought the main improvements were for gravel setup
27th January 2018, 16:46
steve.mandzij

Judging by Toyota's performance so far I'm betting on them winning the manu title. Arguably the strongest team, permanent drivers and a car that's as good as, if not better, than the Fiesta. M Sport is betting on temporary Suninen for car no. 3 and Hyundai's drivers are super unreliable. Citroen needs no explanation.

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27th January 2018, 16:49
seb_sh

Quote:

Originally Posted by rs7

My understanging was that the C3 does not have the new suspension parts yet. So basically it is a last years car in that department

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

I thought the main improvements were for gravel setup

So basically he's probably upset the car was not developed at all for this rally. If we assume that then most of his comments like we can't fight this is all the pace we've got (paraphrasing) would fit.
27th January 2018, 16:56
jparker

Back to Mikkelsen alternator issue, anyone dare to speculate how a belt brakes and/or came off? Does anyone remember if such a thing happened before?
27th January 2018, 16:58
doubled1978

I think its pretty tough to judge too much by Monte Carlo, there is just too much random circumstance.
Anyone could have been off and out on the first night on that ice, really just good fortune who got away with the least time loss.
Its clear the Ford is still pretty benign, so too the Hyundai and Toyota. The Citroen still looks a right handful when the traction is low. So far Meeke has been smart and we didn't say that much last year.
27th January 2018, 16:59
Tarmop

Loosely tightened or faulty.
27th January 2018, 17:02
itix

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Originally Posted by jparker

Back to Mikkelsen alternator issue, anyone dare to speculate how a belt brakes and/or came off? Does anyone remember if such a thing happened before?

Belts break either from wear... which isn't the case in the WRC because I bet they swap them every event... or misalignment between the pulleys which increase the wear exponentially.
I don't know how things are mounted in the hyundai and what adjustment they have so don't know the root cause if it was indeed the belt.

They weigh nothing so I'm surprised they don't have a spare in the car.
27th January 2018, 17:03
jparker

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubled1978

I think its pretty tough to judge too much by Monte Carlo, there is just too much random circumstance.
Anyone could have been off and out on the first night on that ice, really just good fortune who got away with the least time loss.

Some people like to predict and analyze well in advance, and if they got it right to say "I told you so". It's an ego kind of thing.
27th January 2018, 17:08
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by itix

Belts break either from wear... which isn't the case in the WRC because I bet they swap them every event... or misalignment between the pulleys which increase the wear exponentially.
I don't know how things are mounted in the hyundai and what adjustment they have so don't know the root cause if it was indeed the belt.

They weigh nothing so I'm surprised they don't have a spare in the car.

They do carry a spare but the broken belt got stuck in the alternator
27th January 2018, 17:21
itix

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

They do carry a spare but the broken belt got stuck in the alternator

Ah... that explains it.

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